GainzZz For Valhalla
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- MattimusMaximus
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
BW: 197.3 lbs (2680 cals maintenance)
Deadlift: Beltless/DOH/2 min rests
255x5 x4 sets
Incline Bench: Length partials/paused/2 min rest
155 x11 (@9.5)
155 x9 (@10)
Oly SFP: Length partial/paused/60s rests
60 x10 (@8)
60 x9 (@8.5)
60 x8 (@9)
Oly Narrow Grip Curls: stretch pauses/60s rests
60 x10 (@8.5)
60 x7 (@9)
60 x6 (@9.5)
***43 mins
-this session felt much better. Deadlifts were easy. Incline bench I had a rep and performance PR. Tried some narrow grip RP-style curls which were much tougher. I really milk the negatives and pause in the stretched positions of all these accessory lifts. Lots of DOMS. I forgot to pull back on bench intensity today. Oops. Incline bench lengthened partials feel fantastic in the paused (over collar bone) stretch.
Deadlift: Beltless/DOH/2 min rests
255x5 x4 sets
Incline Bench: Length partials/paused/2 min rest
155 x11 (@9.5)
155 x9 (@10)
Oly SFP: Length partial/paused/60s rests
60 x10 (@8)
60 x9 (@8.5)
60 x8 (@9)
Oly Narrow Grip Curls: stretch pauses/60s rests
60 x10 (@8.5)
60 x7 (@9)
60 x6 (@9.5)
***43 mins
-this session felt much better. Deadlifts were easy. Incline bench I had a rep and performance PR. Tried some narrow grip RP-style curls which were much tougher. I really milk the negatives and pause in the stretched positions of all these accessory lifts. Lots of DOMS. I forgot to pull back on bench intensity today. Oops. Incline bench lengthened partials feel fantastic in the paused (over collar bone) stretch.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
BW: 196.9 lbs (2680 cals maintenance)
Squat: Beltless/2 min rests
265x3 x5 sets
Bench: Beltless/Control TnG/2 min rests
185x3 x6 sets
EZ SFP: Stretch Pauses/60s rests
60 x14 (@8.5)
60 x12 (@10)
60 x8 (@9)
EZ Arm Curls: Stretch pauses/60s rests
60 x12 (@8)
60 x9 (@9)
60 x7 (@9)
***50 mins total
Squat: Beltless/2 min rests
265x3 x5 sets
Bench: Beltless/Control TnG/2 min rests
185x3 x6 sets
EZ SFP: Stretch Pauses/60s rests
60 x14 (@8.5)
60 x12 (@10)
60 x8 (@9)
EZ Arm Curls: Stretch pauses/60s rests
60 x12 (@8)
60 x9 (@9)
60 x7 (@9)
***50 mins total
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Maybe think in terms of powerbuilding. Mostly BB stuff while you still have a strength focused day for each of the big three. That is basically what I’m doing. I get bored with BB only as well.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
@JohnHelton Yes that’s exactly my thoughts. I need to get my strength back up. Being so weak is messing with my head a bit. Glad I’m not the only one who finds BB boring. I think the feedback from it is just too damn slow for my personality.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
You might enjoy DoggCrapp for your hypertrophy work. It's briefer and more intense and the idea is to beat the logbook every single session. No boring af sets across and the like.MattimusMaximus wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 4:07 pm @JohnHelton Yes that’s exactly my thoughts. I need to get my strength back up. Being so weak is messing with my head a bit. Glad I’m not the only one who finds BB boring. I think the feedback from it is just too damn slow for my personality.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
@DanCR I actually used to do Mentzer-style HIT for years (minimal results) and then mixed things up with DC training as well. Back in those training days I’d actually puke after nearly every session lol. I just don’t recover well from high intensity. Never have, especially for lower body.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
BW: 197.1 lbs (2680 cals maintenance)
Press:Beltless/2 min Rests
85x5 x4 sets
Seated BB Press: Paused/Beltless/2 min rest
115 x8 (@9)
115 x6 (@9)
LP Bench: Paused/length partials/2 min rest
165 x10 (@9)
165 x8 (@9.5)
Chins: Cobra Grips/Dead hang pauses/60s rests
BW x9 (@9)
BW x6 (@9.5)
BW x5 (@10)
BB Bent Face Pulls (SS) BB High Upright Rows: Cobras
60 x12+10 (@8.5)
Incline Seated DB Curls:
28’s x9 (@10)
28’s x7 (@10)
***58 mins total
-may have been too much volume today.
Press:Beltless/2 min Rests
85x5 x4 sets
Seated BB Press: Paused/Beltless/2 min rest
115 x8 (@9)
115 x6 (@9)
LP Bench: Paused/length partials/2 min rest
165 x10 (@9)
165 x8 (@9.5)
Chins: Cobra Grips/Dead hang pauses/60s rests
BW x9 (@9)
BW x6 (@9.5)
BW x5 (@10)
BB Bent Face Pulls (SS) BB High Upright Rows: Cobras
60 x12+10 (@8.5)
Incline Seated DB Curls:
28’s x9 (@10)
28’s x7 (@10)
***58 mins total
-may have been too much volume today.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Nevermind.MattimusMaximus wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 7:43 pm DanCR I actually used to do Mentzer-style HIT for years (minimal results) and then mixed things up with DC training as well. Back in those training days I’d actually puke after nearly every session lol. I just don’t recover well from high intensity. Never have, especially for lower body.
Seriously, obviously no reason to go back to shit that didn’t work, but your effort on it sounds like it was impressive as hell - what most dudes claim to do on HIT but actually don’t.
I’ve had to gently coax myself out of puking after sets of high rep squats, and have involuntarily taken a knee (or both knees) many times, but never actually hurled.
I’m not gonna take this as a challenge. Really. I swear.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
@DanCR Yes I was really into Heavy Duty Mentzer from about 2008-2011. I was lucky to find a training partner back then who knew even more than I did and he was a competitive bodybuilder. I didn’t know you could throw up from 1 set of BB curls until then. It was fun but just couldn’t recover and grow. Throwing up after every session got old too. Leg days were actually scary! My training partner was on gear (I wasn’t). Eventually he moved to higher volumes at lower intensities and got much much bigger. I tried DC after that with no results and then started focusing on strength SS/TM around 2013.
I seem to grow relatively well with strength focused training. For some reason hypertrophy focused training just drives me into the ground. Maybe my history of masochist training has warped my RIR perception. I always like to think I have 1 more rep in me when training close to failure. Every couple of years I’ll see some new research come out about hypertrophy and worry I’m leaving gains on the table. Since I just came back from a forced winter layoff, that time is now though I’m already getting fed up. Lol.
I seem to grow relatively well with strength focused training. For some reason hypertrophy focused training just drives me into the ground. Maybe my history of masochist training has warped my RIR perception. I always like to think I have 1 more rep in me when training close to failure. Every couple of years I’ll see some new research come out about hypertrophy and worry I’m leaving gains on the table. Since I just came back from a forced winter layoff, that time is now though I’m already getting fed up. Lol.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
BW: 197.0 lbs (2680 cals maintenance)
Deadlift: Beltless/DOH/2 min rests
295x3 x4 sets
Incline Paused Bench: Length Partials/2 min rest
160 x9 (@8.5)
160 x7 (@8.5)
Oly SFP: Stretch Pauses/60s rests
60 x11 (@8)
60 x10 (@9)
60 x9 (@9)
Oly Narrow Grip Curls: Stretch Pauses/60s rests
60 x10 (@8)
60 x8 (@9)
60 x7 (@9)
***44 mins total
-All accessory were either weight or rep PRs so at least things are trending in the right direction. I think I might be finally seeing some pec growth. I’ve decided to drop the SLDLs and the high bar squats just for a bit. That should help with recovery hopefully. I might have to be in an actual surplus if I target legs for hypertrophy.
Deadlift: Beltless/DOH/2 min rests
295x3 x4 sets
Incline Paused Bench: Length Partials/2 min rest
160 x9 (@8.5)
160 x7 (@8.5)
Oly SFP: Stretch Pauses/60s rests
60 x11 (@8)
60 x10 (@9)
60 x9 (@9)
Oly Narrow Grip Curls: Stretch Pauses/60s rests
60 x10 (@8)
60 x8 (@9)
60 x7 (@9)
***44 mins total
-All accessory were either weight or rep PRs so at least things are trending in the right direction. I think I might be finally seeing some pec growth. I’ve decided to drop the SLDLs and the high bar squats just for a bit. That should help with recovery hopefully. I might have to be in an actual surplus if I target legs for hypertrophy.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Sweet. Good stuff in the mirror makes bodybuilding work a lot more fun (or tolerable).MattimusMaximus wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 2:36 pm-All accessory were either weight or rep PRs so at least things are trending in the right direction. I think I might be finally seeing some pec growth.
For sure. Every “get jacked” program ever that relies on lots of lower body work has a section on stuffing your face. I don’t even think it’s entirely about the surplus for growth, but also about not feeling terrible and wanting to shoot yourself.MattimusMaximus wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 2:36 pm I’ve decided to drop the SLDLs and the high bar squats just for a bit. That should help with recovery hopefully. I might have to be in an actual surplus if I target legs for hypertrophy.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
BW: 196.0 lbs (2680 cals maintenance)
Squat: Beltless
275
305
335 @9
335 @8 Belt
315x1 x4 sets (Beltless/60s rests)
Bench: Comp Pauses/Beltless
185
205
225 @7
205x1 x6 sets (Beltless/paused/60s rests)
EZ SFP: Stretched Pauses/60s rest
60 x15 (@8) Rep PR
60 x12 (@8.5)
60 x9 (@8) Rep PR
EZ Arm Curls: Stretched Pauses/60s rest
60 x13 (@8.5) Rep PR
60 x10 (@9) Rep PR
60 x8 (@9.5) Rep PR
***56 mins total
-Squats felt like garbage. I used to be able to do these weights as warmups beltless. I have to eat humble pie and start belting on those closer to max sets now. I swear doing high bar f’d up my low-bar technique.
-Bench felt amazingly easy today. I wanted to push things but decided not to.
-Hypertrophy rep strength is going up for accessories. Yay.
Squat: Beltless
275
305
335 @9
335 @8 Belt
315x1 x4 sets (Beltless/60s rests)
Bench: Comp Pauses/Beltless
185
205
225 @7
205x1 x6 sets (Beltless/paused/60s rests)
EZ SFP: Stretched Pauses/60s rest
60 x15 (@8) Rep PR
60 x12 (@8.5)
60 x9 (@8) Rep PR
EZ Arm Curls: Stretched Pauses/60s rest
60 x13 (@8.5) Rep PR
60 x10 (@9) Rep PR
60 x8 (@9.5) Rep PR
***56 mins total
-Squats felt like garbage. I used to be able to do these weights as warmups beltless. I have to eat humble pie and start belting on those closer to max sets now. I swear doing high bar f’d up my low-bar technique.
-Bench felt amazingly easy today. I wanted to push things but decided not to.
-Hypertrophy rep strength is going up for accessories. Yay.
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Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
BW: 196.5 lbs (2680 cals maintenance)
Press: Beltless
95
115
135 @8
115x1 x4 sets
Seated Paused BB Press: Beltless/2 min rest
115 x9 (@9)
115 x7 (@9.5)
LP Paused Bench: Length Partials/2 min rest
165 x10 (@9.5)
165 x9 (@11)
Weighted Chins: Cobras/dead hang pauses/60s rests
BW+25 lbs x6 (@9.5)
BW+25 lbs x4 (@9)
BW+25 lbs x4 (@10)
BB Bent Face Pull (SS) BB High Upright Row: Cobras
45 x14+14 (@8.5)
Incline Seated DB Curls: Stretch Pauses/60s rest
22’s x13 (@9)
22’s x10 (@9.5)
***56 mins total
-never knew I was stronger for reps in seated presses vs standing. I guess the stability on a bench makes sense.
-Idea behind lengthened partials flat bench, after overhead pressing, is because my triceps are fried by then so focusing on the lengthened bottom portion and just milking the negs and pauses kind of ensures my pecs fail at or before tri’s do.
Press: Beltless
95
115
135 @8
115x1 x4 sets
Seated Paused BB Press: Beltless/2 min rest
115 x9 (@9)
115 x7 (@9.5)
LP Paused Bench: Length Partials/2 min rest
165 x10 (@9.5)
165 x9 (@11)
Weighted Chins: Cobras/dead hang pauses/60s rests
BW+25 lbs x6 (@9.5)
BW+25 lbs x4 (@9)
BW+25 lbs x4 (@10)
BB Bent Face Pull (SS) BB High Upright Row: Cobras
45 x14+14 (@8.5)
Incline Seated DB Curls: Stretch Pauses/60s rest
22’s x13 (@9)
22’s x10 (@9.5)
***56 mins total
-never knew I was stronger for reps in seated presses vs standing. I guess the stability on a bench makes sense.
-Idea behind lengthened partials flat bench, after overhead pressing, is because my triceps are fried by then so focusing on the lengthened bottom portion and just milking the negs and pauses kind of ensures my pecs fail at or before tri’s do.