Squat 225x5
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Squat 225x5
https://youtu.be/EGEacYFQ1G8
Going deeper than I have to, knee slide on the 3rd rep.
Anything else I'm missing?
Going deeper than I have to, knee slide on the 3rd rep.
Anything else I'm missing?
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Re: Squat 225x5
Why you going so fast?
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Re: Squat 225x5
it's light? But you're right, I should take it seriously even when it is so light. I'll take a breathe between reps from now on and focus on staying tight.Root wrote:Why you going so fast?
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Re: Squat 225x5
I think that'd be beneficial. For you and for those trying to critique your form.hsilman wrote:it's light? But you're right, I should take it seriously even when it is so light. I'll take a breathe between reps from now on and focus on staying tight.Root wrote:Why you going so fast?
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Re: Squat 225x5
I think a more challenging set of 5 would be better for a critique--something that requires you to reset and get tight between reps.
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Re: Squat 225x5
What d0uevenlift and Root said: big valsalva + tightening up like your life depends on it will probably fix your "going too deep" and your knee slide altogether. Both of them are "relaxing at the bottom" problems.
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Re: Squat 225x5
Not to pile on, but in your log you rated these at @6-7 right? They look like a warmup that's not even your last one, @0.
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Re: Squat 225x5
Ok, ok. I get it guys.
Too light to really tell. Stay tight.
Thanks
Too light to really tell. Stay tight.
Thanks
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Re: Squat 225x5
Also, you "finished" a few reps in about 20-30 degrees of static hip flexion. Don't get in the habit of doing that. It's a weird & common low-bar fuckup.
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I've always wondered about this. Seems tricky. If the bar is low enough on the back, the bar is over your heels when you're standing. So when you descend, you have to allow the bar to travel forward to get over midfoot, and the reverse is true when you ascend. This makes for a not-so-straight bar path. Is the difference between the sloped bar path and a straight one negligible?Hanley wrote:Also, you "finished" a few reps in about 20-30 degrees of static hip flexion. Don't get in the habit of doing that. It's a weird & common low-bar fuckup.
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Re: Squat 225x5
Why would the bar be over your heels at the top? You bend at the hips a little to keep the bar balanced over mid-foot. I don't think this is what Hanley's talking about, because it's a lot less than 20-30 degrees.d0uevenlift wrote:I've always wondered about this. Seems tricky. If the bar is low enough on the back, the bar is over your heels when you're standing. So when you descend, you have to allow the bar to travel forward to get over midfoot, and the reverse is true when you ascend. This makes for a not-so-straight bar path. Is the difference between the sloped bar path and a straight one negligible?Hanley wrote:Also, you "finished" a few reps in about 20-30 degrees of static hip flexion. Don't get in the habit of doing that. It's a weird & common low-bar fuckup.
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Re: Squat 225x5
I think what Hanley means is that once you reach the top, after a rep, you don't fully stand up. Look at the side by side of 1) you standing before starting, and 2) at the end of the second rep:Manveer wrote:Why would the bar be over your heels at the top? You bend at the hips a little to keep the bar balanced over mid-foot. I don't think this is what Hanley's talking about, because it's a lot less than 20-30 degrees.d0uevenlift wrote:I've always wondered about this. Seems tricky. If the bar is low enough on the back, the bar is over your heels when you're standing. So when you descend, you have to allow the bar to travel forward to get over midfoot, and the reverse is true when you ascend. This makes for a not-so-straight bar path. Is the difference between the sloped bar path and a straight one negligible?Hanley wrote:Also, you "finished" a few reps in about 20-30 degrees of static hip flexion. Don't get in the habit of doing that. It's a weird & common low-bar fuckup.
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Re: Squat 225x5
If the knees are straight and the hips are locked out, the ankles bend. You're not vertical and you can't be, you're right, but you can lock your hips and your knees.d0uevenlift wrote:I've always wondered about this. Seems tricky. If the bar is low enough on the back, the bar is over your heels when you're standing. So when you descend, you have to allow the bar to travel forward to get over midfoot, and the reverse is true when you ascend. This makes for a not-so-straight bar path. Is the difference between the sloped bar path and a straight one negligible?Hanley wrote:Also, you "finished" a few reps in about 20-30 degrees of static hip flexion. Don't get in the habit of doing that. It's a weird & common low-bar fuckup.
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FYI, that wasn't me responding. I understand and agree with Rex Manley about the issue. It's a bad habit when going this quickly to not finish standing up. I just have to make myself do it.omaniphil wrote:I think what Hanley means is that once you reach the top, after a rep, you don't fully stand up. Look at the side by side of 1) you standing before starting, and 2) at the end of the second rep:Manveer wrote:Why would the bar be over your heels at the top? You bend at the hips a little to keep the bar balanced over mid-foot. I don't think this is what Hanley's talking about, because it's a lot less than 20-30 degrees.d0uevenlift wrote:I've always wondered about this. Seems tricky. If the bar is low enough on the back, the bar is over your heels when you're standing. So when you descend, you have to allow the bar to travel forward to get over midfoot, and the reverse is true when you ascend. This makes for a not-so-straight bar path. Is the difference between the sloped bar path and a straight one negligible?Hanley wrote:Also, you "finished" a few reps in about 20-30 degrees of static hip flexion. Don't get in the habit of doing that. It's a weird & common low-bar fuckup.
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It's very, very common. I catch myself doing it pretty much every squat session.hsilman wrote:It's a bad habit when going this quickly to not finish standing up. I just have to make myself do it.
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But that's what Hanley is talking about. I think OP's sense of balance is forcing him to bend at the torso way too much to get the bar over midfoot instead of over the heels.Manveer wrote:Why would the bar be over your heels at the top? You bend at the hips a little to keep the bar balanced over mid-foot. I don't think this is what Hanley's talking about, because it's a lot less than 20-30 degrees.
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Re: Squat 225x5
Like OCG mentioned, at full knee & hip extension you just dorsi-flex the ankle a little to stay in balance.d0uevenlift wrote:But that's what Hanley is talking about. I think OP's sense of balance is forcing him to bend at the torso way too much to get the bar over midfoot instead of over the heels.Manveer wrote:Why would the bar be over your heels at the top? You bend at the hips a little to keep the bar balanced over mid-foot. I don't think this is what Hanley's talking about, because it's a lot less than 20-30 degrees.
But it's very easy to default to this odd partial-bow-squat.
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Re: Squat 225x5
OK. I get what you guys are saying.
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Re: Squat 225x5
I'm actually gonna try doing this with ankle dorsiflexion. I normally do it with some hip flexion at the top, and sometimes thoracic flexion, unfortunately.