I like where you're going with that. Maybe to my detriment. I CAN do them, I just hate pushups and so do my elbows.DCR wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:45 pmCorrect me if I’m wrong, but I assume that it’s the ability to do the 30 push ups that correlates with decreased mortality, not the doing of them. Assuming that, no harm in progressing them in a manner other than total reps. I agree that 30 reps isn’t a crazy amount, but I get suspicious of the form on anything in that range.
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No, that's right. But I'm likewise just as suspicious of anyone who does a set of 15 and says "that was easy, I can totally do 30, I'm good." I wasn't very clear in my post, either- work on getting BW in check, and strength and cardio up to doing a 30 rep set of push ups and a 10 rep set of pull ups. If weight loss and health is the goal, I think those are some fine goalposts along the way.DCR wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:45 pm Correct me if I’m wrong, but I assume that it’s the ability to do the 30 push ups that correlates with decreased mortality, not the doing of them. Assuming that, no harm in progressing them in a manner other than total reps. I agree that 30 reps isn’t a crazy amount, but I get suspicious of the form on anything in that range.
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It was 40 push-ups, not 30, and they're harder than you're thinking because they have to be done in sync with an 80 bpm metronome, two beeps per push-up, one down, one up. You can't bang out fast reps, nor can you rest.
Here's a thread I started about it a couple of years ago:
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Gotcha - agree.Allentown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:29 pmNo, that's right. But I'm likewise just as suspicious of anyone who does a set of 15 and says "that was easy, I can totally do 30, I'm good." I wasn't very clear in my post, either- work on getting BW in check, and strength and cardio up to doing a 30 rep set of push ups and a 10 rep set of pull ups. If weight loss and health is the goal, I think those are some fine goalposts along the way.DCR wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:45 pm Correct me if I’m wrong, but I assume that it’s the ability to do the 30 push ups that correlates with decreased mortality, not the doing of them. Assuming that, no harm in progressing them in a manner other than total reps. I agree that 30 reps isn’t a crazy amount, but I get suspicious of the form on anything in that range.
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Actually, that’s where I was going - it’s not a crazy number, but I do think that it’s hard if not cheated, whether by straying from the criteria in the study that caught your eye, or just standard shitty humping the floor. I’ve never met a person who claimed to do sets of really high rep pushups whose form wasn’t total trash.asdf wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:17 pmIt was 40 push-ups, not 30, and they're harder than you're thinking because they have to be done in sync with an 80 bpm metronome, two beeps per push-up, one down, one up. You can't bang out fast reps, nor can you rest.
Here's a thread I started about it a couple of years ago:
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Shoot, looks like I have some work to do to stay alive.asdf wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:17 pmIt was 40 push-ups, not 30, and they're harder than you're thinking because they have to be done in sync with an 80 bpm metronome, two beeps per push-up, one down, one up. You can't bang out fast reps, nor can you rest.
Here's a thread I started about it a couple of years ago:
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I do remember the SBS guys doing a segment on this. Either it was in the last few months or that is when I listened to it. Their take from the studies was that the majority of health benefits are gained at the low end of time commitment exercising and the health benefits/time exercising relationship was not linear.asdf wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:51 pmMajor health organizations recommend *at least* 150-300 minutes per week of moderate exercise or 75-150 minutes of vigorous exercise. Going beyond the upper end confers additional health benefits.Hardartery wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:47 pm cardio health ... 20 mins 3 times a week is probably more than enough
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You're right. A 20% reduction in mortality risk occurs with just 50 minutes of moderate-to-vigorous exercise per week. There's a nice chart showing the dose-response curve in the Scientific Report backing the 2018 Physical Activity Guidelines. See page D-10.TheGloriousW wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:47 pm the majority of health benefits are gained at the low end of time commitment exercising and the health benefits/time exercising relationship was not linear.
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That’s interesting.
I noticed my elbows and shoulders are not happy if I stop doing push ups and curls.
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I am forced into a tucked elbow position for them. I am not adverse to pain, but there is no special victory in it for me so it's not worth it. Even with tucked elbows the shoulders and elbows get a little pissed off after 15 or so. I can knock out more with the elbows out, but there's nothing in it for me to entice me to endure the pain and possible tendonitis.AlanMackey wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 4:27 amThat’s interesting.
I noticed my elbows and shoulders are not happy if I stop doing push ups and curls.