Conditioning

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I could put one dog in the backpack!

[Allentown]

"I could put one dog in the backpack!"

No, you must never reveal what's in the backpack.

[Shane]

You know what's fun? Inline skating with a fast dog on a lead. Total Ben Hur action. Dog's like "fuck - this bastard is keeping up with me for a change, what's going on? have to run faster!" Need to be a pretty decent skater though - gets hairy when the dog decides to lurch off the path to chase something or you have to stop quickly while the dog is still pulling hard. But useless for conditioning unless you're the dog.

[SeanHerbison]

But useless for conditioning unless you're the dog.

Well, the obvious solution is to put the dog in skates while you run ahead.

[Shane]

But useless for conditioning unless you're the dog.

Well, the obvious solution is to put the dog in skates while you run ahead.

When they've mastered socks, I'll give it a go.



Until then...

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That person skating with two dogs is doomed. The clip is short because they edited out the injury accident in the next 2 seconds.

[michael]

What's the low hanging fruit of the aerobic/conditioning world?

For strength training the NLP gets someone to a 225 bench, 315 squat, and 405 deadlift basically for "free".

What can I get for "free" on the aerobic side of fitness?

FBaum is recommending very low level of aerobic work in the Bridge. Is there something to building an "aerobic base"? Or is this bad for strength performance?

@KyleSchuant mentioned the 180 method for heart rate. By that measure my max heart rate is about 125. That is crazy low. Should I just be walking a few hours a week at that crazy low heart rate? Did I hit that just typing this?

[iamsmu]

What's the low hanging fruit of the aerobic/conditioning world?

For strength training the NLP gets someone to a 225 bench, 315 squat, and 405 deadlift basically for "free".

What can I get for "free" on the aerobic side of fitness?

FBaum is recommending very low level of aerobic work in the Bridge. Is there something to building an "aerobic base"? Or is this bad for strength performance?

@KyleSchuant mentioned the 180 method for heart rate. By that measure my max heart rate is about 125. That is crazy low. Should I just be walking a few hours a week at that crazy low heart rate? Did I hit that just typing this?

In 3-6 months starting as a couch potato: An 8 minute mile and an 8 minute 2k row. ??? It might be more like 7 and 7:30, depending on your weight for running. I dunno.

What's the 180 method?

[michael]

What's the 180 method?

A way to calculate your training heart rate. It's 180 - age in years - some other stuff.

https://philmaffetone.com/180-formula/

[Allentown]

In 3-6 months starting as a couch potato: An 8 minute mile and an 8 minute 2k row. ??? It might be more like 7 and 7:30, depending on your weight for running. I dunno.

What's the 180 method?

Or 9 and 7:30... (I have no clue what my 2k row time is/could be)

[iamsmu]

In 3-6 months starting as a couch potato: An 8 minute mile and an 8 minute 2k row. ??? It might be more like 7 and 7:30, depending on your weight for running. I dunno.

What's the 180 method?

Or 9 and 7:30... (I have no clue what my 2k row time is/could be)

I can't do a 7:30 2k yet, but I haven't trained for it. Not at all. It's a goal that I will pursue. But I think it's probably not the end of a rowing LP (which I'm not on yet) for me. We'll see. I found 7:45 difficult last week. . . . I was just speculating about what a reasonable conditioning LP goal might be for an average man. So, ya, bs.

[broseph]

What's the low hanging fruit of the aerobic/conditioning world?

For strength training the NLP gets someone to a 225 bench, 315 squat, and 405 deadlift basically for "free".

What can I get for "free" on the aerobic side of fitness?

I'm not in love with calling those strength numbers "free" or even "low hanging fruit." Especially for someone who enjoys an aerobic sport. Wouldn't a marathoner have to sacrifice a decent amount of his (I assume we're talking about a male trainee from the strength numbers) sport performance for a several months to get these strength "freebees?" And it definitely takes hard work.

Maybe "free" just means "with simple programming." Which could be comparable to a couch-to-10k program. Low hanging in that a stock program prescription will get you there, but it will be a pretty big focus of your life for several weeks and would certainly hurt your sports performance if you identify as a powerlifter.

To me, as a "lifter" (lol), low hanging conditioning fruit is something I could achieve without compromising performance, or maybe even progress on the main lifts. Lifting progress might slow down, but not stop.


I want:
Lower resting heart rate and blood pressure.
Not be embarrassed when taking the stairs. "lol I thought you worked out!"
MAYBE improved intraset recovery, but it's really not a big deal.
Higher baseline metabolism so I can eat pizza regularly and make changes to body composition when desired.
Without sacrificing my squat.

How do that?

[Allentown]

I want:
Lower resting heart rate and blood pressure.
Not be embarrassed when taking the stairs. "lol I thought you worked out!"
MAYBE improved intraset recovery, but it's really not a big deal.
Higher baseline metabolism so I can eat pizza regularly and make changes to body composition when desired.
Without sacrificing my squat.

How do that?

I don't know about blood pressure or HR, but prowler, 2-3x/week. Heavy walks, light sprints, medium sprints.

[broseph]

I forgot to add “fun and easy” to my list of demands. Oh, and a pony.

[Allentown]

I forgot to add “fun and easy” to my list of demands. Oh, and a pony.

Beer-league softball?

[broseph]

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