IPF Classic Worlds 2018

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

Watching the 72kg women right now... they need to replace the spotter on the left. He didn't even attempt to catch one failed squat, plates hit the floor. Then he almost missed another one a few minutes later.

I made the same comment to my wife.

Yeah he was worthless. A few minutes after I made that post, this happened:



They replaced him after that one.

Was the lifter warned do you know?

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

Really pleased to see Gibbs hold on to his Deads and hit WR Squat, Benches (twice for a couple of minutes) and Total.

[Wilhelm]

Was the lifter warned do you know?

No.
Nor should she have been.
She (admirably) kept the bar in her hands despite the spotter utterly failing the catch.

[Cody]

Was the lifter warned do you know?

No.
Nor should she have been.
She (admirably) kept the bar in her hands despite the spotter utterly failing the catch.

They could ameliorate those situations with a better designed rack.

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

Don't get me wrong, the spotting was shocking but I wondered if the Refs considered that dumping by the Lifter.

I absolutely agree Squats should be in Monolift-type Jobby with straps, then no one has to get hurt at all.

[Wilhelm]

Don't get me wrong, the spotting was shocking but I wondered if the Refs considered that dumping by the Lifter.

I absolutely agree Squats should be in Monolift-type Jobby with straps, then no one has to get hurt at all.

Yeah, again, she held onto the bar until the weights were literally on the floor, even though she was bent backward.

She was not warned. And the refs have not been shy about warnings for dumping.

[TimK]

93kg Men - What happened with the

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Brazilian's 3rd deadlift? I guess they called him for hitching? I watched it in again at .25 speed and while his knees go in and out a bit it didn't look like a deliberate hitching motion, they were just shaky because he was grinding so hard.

[Manveer]

93kg Men - What happened with the

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Brazilian's 3rd deadlift? I guess they called him for hitching? I watched it in again at .25 speed and while his knees go in and out a bit it didn't look like a deliberate hitching motion, they were just shaky because he was grinding so hard.

Yeah, that was bullshit IMO. Edit: After watching it a few more times, I dunno. Maybe a good call. Watch as it passes just above the knee.

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

Downward movement...

[TimK]

I don't know, watched it a few more times and I didn't see the downward movement. The bar was shaking, and it stopped moving entirely for a second, but then it went up.

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

Approx 2:19:03 in the video replay.

[mettkeks]

Don't get me wrong, the spotting was shocking but I wondered if the Refs considered that dumping by the Lifter.

I absolutely agree Squats should be in Monolift-type Jobby with straps, then no one has to get hurt at all.

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

Don't get me wrong, the spotting was shocking but I wondered if the Refs considered that dumping by the Lifter.

I absolutely agree Squats should be in Monolift-type Jobby with straps, then no one has to get hurt at all.

Pain to see depth in Sumner's set-up...

[TimK]

So how dumb is the whole "Must be at Worlds to set a world record" thing? When you have people setting "world records" that are less than the national record they set previously, why should anyone be excited? The rules and judging are supposed to be the same between national and world events, right?

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Daniella Melo squatted 213 for a "world record" but she squatted 222.5 at the Arnold in March. Not trying to take anything away from her, she's strong as fuck and holds the world record either way, I just don't get the rule.

Also does anyone really care about spoilers in this thread? I saw someone else use the tag earlier so I followed suit...

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

They're supposed to be, but they're not...World Records need to be set at International competitions with (what should be) fairer judging.

Weightlifting is also the same.

[TimK]

They're supposed to be, but they're not...World Records need to be set at International competitions with (what should be) fairer judging.

Weightlifting is also the same.

Hmm, I hadn't thought about that. I can see the rationale. But still, it seems like they could figure out a better system to ensure fairness though. Like if someone sets a world record, the video (from predetermined angles, etc.) needs to be submitted to an international panel for verification. I don't know, to me it seems logical that if someone sets a world record it should be a weight that no one has ever lifted before under those rules and judging.

[mettkeks]

Pain to see depth in Sumner's set-up...

Thats true, but there's always a way to make it work. I wouldn't want people to lose fingers with straps dangling around the bar.

[mettkeks]

They're supposed to be, but they're not...World Records need to be set at International competitions with (what should be) fairer judging.

Weightlifting is also the same.

Hmm, I hadn't thought about that. I can see the rationale. But still, it seems like they could figure out a better system to ensure fairness though. Like if someone sets a world record, the video (from predetermined angles, etc.) needs to be submitted to an international panel for verification. I don't know, to me it seems logical that if someone sets a world record it should be a weight that no one has ever lifted before under those rules and judging.

Some feds just need you to have judges from other countries. Isn't that the case with the IPF?

[TimK]

Melo just smashed the world record total by 13kg on her opening deadlift. At 19 years old. Wow.

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

They're supposed to be, but they're not...World Records need to be set at International competitions with (what should be) fairer judging.

Weightlifting is also the same.

Hmm, I hadn't thought about that. I can see the rationale. But still, it seems like they could figure out a better system to ensure fairness though. Like if someone sets a world record, the video (from predetermined angles, etc.) needs to be submitted to an international panel for verification. I don't know, to me it seems logical that if someone sets a world record it should be a weight that no one has ever lifted before under those rules and judging.

Well, I think it is not just the Judging on the platform that is the issue but also that the whole session / meet is run to the acceptable standard, along with the doping control etc.

It is highly likely the IPF are just mirroring the IWF Standard to further their cause for Olympic Inclusion.