Martha Rogers Thread

[ShuggyBear]

I'll stick with the American girls, especially when they are wearing watermelon shorts.

Not a fan of Pope.

You have poor taste in music and women.

[jake]

Mattie was featured in an article on Olympic Weightlifting in the Wall Street Journal a few days ago: https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-weight ... 1511368315

Paywalled though.

[chromoly]

Is there no love for Jessica Lucero, the best USAW 58??

It appears she is lifting as a 63 in Anaheim.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicalucero9/

[mgil]

Is there no love for Jessica Lucero, the best USAW 58??

It appears she is lifting as a 63 in Anaheim.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicalucero9/

Not only does she worship Jesus, she dates him:

[chromoly]

Is there no love for Jessica Lucero, the best USAW 58??

It appears she is lifting as a 63 in Anaheim.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicalucero9/

Not only does she worship Jesus, she dates him

She's MARRIED to him OK???

Anyway, Jessica Lucero is a lifter I really admire, so since this has somehow become the women of USAW thread, I thought she should be included

[mgil]

Is there no love for Jessica Lucero, the best USAW 58??

It appears she is lifting as a 63 in Anaheim.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicalucero9/

Not only does she worship Jesus, she dates him

She's MARRIED to him OK???

Anyway, Jessica Lucero is a lifter I really admire, so since this has somehow become the women of USAW thread, I thought she should be included

She’s a nun then?

*interest piqued*

[mbasic]

Is there no love for Jessica Lucero, the best USAW 58??

It appears she is lifting as a 63 in Anaheim.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicalucero9/

No. No love.
Her technique seems wildly inconsistent and weird IMO. Ripp would poo poo on that arm bend of hers, which even I would say it's bit much. Her catches are awkward.

Be that as it may, she has both 58 USAW records.
So she wins bonus points there.

Those "Lucerco set an AR but didn't get selected to go on the Rio Olympic squad" videos are a bit much. Everett does those I know, but she plays along.

Whining about how hard it is for her AND her Jesus crossfitter husband to train at the same time (husband was like 20th in the Fit Games)...was a bit 1st World Problem-ish. Jesus should of put his pathetic exercise career on hold to support the gal doing the real sport...and the one who has(is) a legitimate spot to make a mark in the the sport. So yeah, fuck right off.

I'm really curious about the move to 63.

I will formulate my final opinion about her after her world's performances. I'm not expecting anything spectacular though.

[DirtyRed]

Perhaps I am late to the party but it seems Mattie Rogers just confirmed the existence of a boyfriend. He pulls sumo yet is the chosen one who gets to go to the promised land so what the fuck does that make the rest of us pieces of shit? MBasic: suicide pact? Let's do it.

eh... I mostly 'like' her because she is (considered) "good" lifting wise . . .
"good" in the context of US lifters lifting in the US, the way US lifters lift, ya know.

I'm not necessarily overly attracted to her, or her type of persona.

Dumb as rocks?

She better do something impressive at Worlds, like 110/140, or I'm jumping off the bandwagon.
*laces up jumping shoes*

So it's not just me thinking she hasn't made any competition progress it what feels like well over a year?

Is there no love for Jessica Lucero, the best USAW 58??

It appears she is lifting as a 63 in Anaheim.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicalucero9/

Christfagging bullshit in her Instagram AND she weighs less than 150 lbs? I have already paid more attention to her than I ever wanted to.

Not related to her, but to others in the thread, what the with sleeve tattoos and barbell women? They don't look good on MEN 90% of the time.

I will very much judge. Your life choices are bad and you should feel bad.

[mbasic]

She better do something impressive at Worlds, like 110/140, or I'm jumping off the bandwagon.
*laces up jumping shoes*

So it's not just me thinking she hasn't made any competition progress it what feels like well over a year?

I was thinking that too, but then I learned she was hurt just before Pan-Ams in Florida.
Her back was injured bad enough to go to the hospital/clinic?
She barely could train with any appreciable weights right before the competition . . .
. . .and she still managed to put up numbers just off her best.
So I don't know now. Real curious what she does at Worlds.
Hard to tell what she's lifting on IG becuz they have weird shitty plates at that gym of hers.
(black plates are what?. Old shitty blues look like greens, etc)
Also 1kilo PR on the CnJ in 5/2017 ???

Is there no love for Jessica Lucero, the best USAW 58??

It appears she is lifting as a 63 in Anaheim.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicalucero9/

Christfagging bullshit in her Instagram

This^. What's funny about the last few posts, His first name IS in fact Christian.
So she IS married to Jesus.

AND she weighs less than 150 lbs? I have already paid more attention to her than I ever wanted to.

she looks nice currently, IMO.

I will give her this: Jess has been at it for a long long time.
And very slow steady progress over all those years, no huge jumps in totals her or there.

[Kregna]

I need to do crossfit. Those guys get all the sexy women

No. No love.
Her technique seems wildly inconsistent and weird IMO. Ripp would poo poo on that arm bend of hers, which even I would say it's bit much. Her catches are awkward.

Her arm bends start almost at the floor and are fugly as hell

I see some of those Juggernaught Training Systems guys/gals under Max Aita doing the arm bend... considering how big a group they are, I'm surprised at how inconsistent the form is in between lifters whose videos they're putting up

[slowmotion]

You might want to go here, live lifting: https://www.teamusa.org/usa-weightlifting/live

[mbasic]

Her arm bends start almost at the floor and are fugly as hell

yeah, but . . . . USA records both lifts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I see some of those Juggernaught Training Systems guys/gals under Max Aita doing the arm bend... considering how big a group they are, I'm surprised at how inconsistent the form is in between lifters whose videos they're putting up

Most of these lifter learned somewhere else;
and hop around from coach to coach every year or two these days.

"Fixing" or changing things in a major way may not be worth it; motor patterns ingrained, etc.
Little tweaks, yeah, that you can do.

There are Russians and Chinese lifters who have wildly different techniques, even under the same coach.
But there again, learned somewhere else (lower tier coach), before going to the/a National Training Site under a different coach.

[Kregna]

Her arm bends start almost at the floor and are fugly as hell

yeah, but . . . . USA records both lifts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I see some of those Juggernaught Training Systems guys/gals under Max Aita doing the arm bend... considering how big a group they are, I'm surprised at how inconsistent the form is in between lifters whose videos they're putting up

Most of these lifter learned somewhere else;
and hop around from coach to coach every year or two these days.

"Fixing" or changing things in a major way may not be worth it; motor patterns ingrained, etc.
Little tweaks, yeah, that you can do.

There are Russians and Chinese lifters who have wildly different techniques, even under the same coach.
But there again, learned somewhere else (lower tier coach), before going to the/a National Training Site under a different coach.

Fair comment on the different coaching / acquired habits

Do you think the arm bend lady would lift more with straight arms ?

(I've seen that video on why some people might do it deliberately)

[mgil]

Dropping this off for SSD:

[mbasic]

Do you think the arm bend lady would lift more with straight arms ?

(I've seen that video on why some people might do it deliberately)

hard to say.
I see Lucero's arm straighten at extension, but it appears the bar is sort of resting on her hips by that point.
So I don't see the power leak. Its as if she throwing it up with her hips . . .which is the way some coach it.

Its a small mind fuck if you think about in the simple and obvious terms.
Bending her arm DOES lift the bar higher at full extension (as opposed to straight arms).
IF her arms are bent, the bar IS higher at the critical time, no?
BUT there's no such thing as a free lunch, if you bend arms AS you are doing the first and 2nd pull,
that arm-pulling-force has to be bore by the legs.
But this is almost nil? or is it.

Some might execute their "early arm bend" around the scoop phase, AKA the double knee bend (DKB).
There is an inherent slowing of the bar speed (slowing of acceleration actually/ideally) thru that phase of the lift, even if your DKB is minor. So maybe that's a good time to do it anyways? IDK?

Prematurely bending the arms can improve the bar path at extension for sure.

Also (my idea), a little early arm bend sort of starts the pulling-under phase; a sort of pre-tensioning.
If you are tugging on that bar a little at full extension,
the VERY MOMENT you are done with extension and lift your legs,
YOU WILL INSTANTLY start to move down if you are arm pulling a little at that moment.
. . . as opposed to full leg extension, then pulling-under at two distinct different times.
I think its better if the two phases (extension & the pull under) barely meld together somewhat.

Lately I've noticed, my knees are "into" my elbows at the start of the snatch,
so I have to start with very slightly bent arms.
Much inefficient.

There were some old thread over at Egypt where Klokov and others were sited as having techique close to Rips ideas.
What?

[DirtyRed]

She better do something impressive at Worlds, like 110/140, or I'm jumping off the bandwagon.
*laces up jumping shoes*

So it's not just me thinking she hasn't made any competition progress it what feels like well over a year?

I was thinking that too, but then I learned she was hurt just before Pan-Ams in Florida.
Her back was injured bad enough to go to the hospital/clinic?
She barely could train with any appreciable weights right before the competition . . .
. . .and she still managed to put up numbers just off her best.
So I don't know now. Real curious what she does at Worlds.
Hard to tell what she's lifting on IG becuz they have weird shitty plates at that gym of hers.
(black plates are what?. Old shitty blues look like greens, etc)
Also 1kilo PR on the CnJ in 5/2017 ???

Wowee, a 1 kg PR. Though I can understand the poorly timed injury could through off competition progress. Judging by the what the weight appears to be on things she's calling 90% on Instagram, she's fixing to make some actual headway.

If she doesn't make SOME appreciable progress, we all have to stop paying attention to her dumb ass.

Is it just me, or does she have REALLY short arms? She must have in order to bang a CLEAN off her illiac crests, right? When I stand erect with the bar, it's barely more than halfway up my fucking thigh.

Which leads in to the one thing she does that genuinely annoys me. She occasionally launches into these fucking rants that her ability is all hard work and that she TOTALLY doesn't have any genetic talent and it's all that she works very hard not that she has the wingspan of a fucking gnat and a vertical jump that probably at least rivals MINE, I swear.

Fuck off with that shit. I'm sure she works hard. I can see that from her Instagram. But if she had Slenderman arms and a 14 inch vertical leap, the only way anyone would know her name is if she were a porn star.

AND she weighs less than 150 lbs? I have already paid more attention to her than I ever wanted to.

she looks nice currently, IMO.

I was more talking about I don't care in the slightest what she lifts, because I'm sure it's really not that much. I hope no one takes this personally, I just don't give a shit about weight class babies in any sport. I understand not everyone can be 6'6'' and 350 lbs, but everyone without an honest to god congenital disorder CAN weigh 150 lbs. And if you don't, nothing you do matters to the only person that matters (hint: me).

[mgil]

[mbasic]

For those who haven't been keeping up . . .

USA has been having a sucky meet.

Harrison Marus had a massive quad cramp on his 1st CnJ attempt.
And had to withdraw.
Set Youth Record, and won a bronze. . . .but a lot was left on the table there.
Only bright spot for USA.

CJ Cummins recent change to Squat Jerk failed him.
...that is, he bombed out in CnJ.

Lucero bombed in the snatch. (missed all three attempts)
Only made one CnJ attempt IIRC.

Mattie missed her 3rd snatch @ 107, almost had it, which would've been a USRecord ....I think.
Mattie was pinned in the clean on her 2nd & 3rd attempt.
These were well below her best weights for the CnJ . . .
She caught them square in the bottom, etc. Looked OK
She was weaker today. She's stuck progress wise IMO. Bronze medal.
She will refuse to go to 75.

Colin Burns fucked his elbow up on his 2nd snatch.
Had to withdrawl.

This is just off of memory; some of it might be wrong.

[stuffedsuperdud]

The #Russians must be getting quite a kick out of this. Everyone ahead of team USA, including powerhouses like Russia China and Armenia got banned, the playing field was relatively level, and there was talk on mainstream sports news such as ESPN of an American medaling at Worlds and what we do? Shoot ourselves in both feet. Ugh X_X

[Allentown]

Is Colin still doing crossfit stuff? Acquaintance of mine apparently dated him for a little bit and she talked about doing WODs with him. I later found out he was a competitive oly lifter. I'm, like, 75% sure I am remembering this correctly.