lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
I’m unfairly annoyed that he can just learn on my Farmers carry max. Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
I thought he's been a little over 200 for a while now? I don't know, it's not like I keep up with him that much outside of seeing IG posts like that (ya know, clear bias and all that)...
But yeah jumping straight in to 300+ per hand is awesome. I'm guessing the handles on his farmers are smooth too, which makes it that much better. I don't think I've ever actually pushed my max on a set of regular handles. Mine at home are smooth 1.5" OD, and I've had 225 (maybe a little over) per hand on those. Those are not long for this world though...
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
I’m unfairly annoyed that he can just learn on my Farmers carry max. Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
Pretty sure he walks around @205ish now but still competes at 198. It'd be easy to check. What weight class did he just compete in last week? Probably not 220. I think Strongman has the same weight class, no (198).
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
2 Instagram posts before this one he says he weighed in at 89.5 kg for the powerlifting meet. So just shy of 200 lbs. Don't know if he cut much for that, but I'm assuming he walks around at a higher weight.
He certainly looks jacked and more than 200 in that farmers carry clip. Not nearly as good as Rip though, It's pretty clear that Jordan has really let himself go downhill since the split.
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
I’m unfairly annoyed that he can just learn on my Farmers carry max. Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
Pretty sure he walks around @205ish now but still competes at 198. It'd be easy to check. What weight class did he just compete in last week? Probably not 220. I think Strongman has the same weight class, no (198).
USS has 198/220 and Strongman Corp has 200/231 for middleweights...
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
I’m unfairly annoyed that he can just learn on my Farmers carry max. Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
Pretty sure he walks around @205ish now but still competes at 198. It'd be easy to check. What weight class did he just compete in last week? Probably not 220. I think Strongman has the same weight class, no (198).
USS has 198/220 and Strongman Corp has 200/231 for middleweights...
Right. So like I said. Seriously doubt he's going for the 220/231 weight classes -- so the answer to the question is YUP -- he's 200 lbs and looks like that. And can farmer carry 3x BW his first time trying...
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
I’m unfairly annoyed that he can just learn on my Farmers carry max. Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
Pretty sure he walks around @205ish now but still competes at 198. It'd be easy to check. What weight class did he just compete in last week? Probably not 220. I think Strongman has the same weight class, no (198).
USS has 198/220 and Strongman Corp has 200/231 for middleweights...
Right. So like I said. Seriously doubt he's going for the 220/231 weight classes -- so the answer to the question is YUP -- he's 200 lbs and looks like that. And can farmer carry 3x BW his first time trying...
Ok, cool, I guess I have to go full Steven/Montfort and hate him. I mean, J seems like a good guy, and he’s doing a lot of good for the training world and yards yadda, but I weigh 202 at 2 inches taller and you don’t get to make me somehow feel skinny and fat at the same time. Jerk.
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
2 Instagram posts before this one he says he weighed in at 89.5 kg for the powerlifting meet. So just shy of 200 lbs. Don't know if he cut much for that, but I'm assuming he walks around at a higher weight.
He certainly looks jacked and more than 200 in that farmers carry clip. Not nearly as good as Rip though, It's pretty clear that Jordan has really let himself go downhill since the split.
Rip could TOTALLY do that, and further more, would hold forth about why putting it down every two steps and snorting for a minute and a half is actually superior to just walking it across. See also, their prowler video on why walking it slowly is better.
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
I’m unfairly annoyed that he can just learn on my Farmers carry max. Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
Pretty sure he walks around @205ish now but still competes at 198. It'd be easy to check. What weight class did he just compete in last week? Probably not 220. I think Strongman has the same weight class, no (198).
USS has 198/220 and Strongman Corp has 200/231 for middleweights...
Right. So like I said. Seriously doubt he's going for the 220/231 weight classes -- so the answer to the question is YUP -- he's 200 lbs and looks like that. And can farmer carry 3x BW his first time trying...
Ok, cool, I guess I have to go full Steven/Montfort and hate him. I mean, J seems like a good guy, and he’s doing a lot of good for the training world and yards yadda, but I weigh 202 at 2 inches taller and you don’t get to make me somehow feel skinny and fat at the same time. Jerk.
Yeah. It gets a little depressing on his instragram. I'm his height (slightly taller) and his weight and feel both skinny and fat as well lol -- but the fact he can bench, pull AND press for 6-8 reps what I hope to do for 1 3-5 years from now after recomping to be closer to his muscle mass is... demotivating lol. At least my squat will catch his 8rm in only a year or two...
lehman906 wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:55 pm
I’m unfairly annoyed that he can just learn on my Farmers carry max. Also, there’s no way he still weighs 200, right? Not if he’s actually 5’10”?
Pretty sure he walks around @205ish now but still competes at 198. It'd be easy to check. What weight class did he just compete in last week? Probably not 220. I think Strongman has the same weight class, no (198).
USS has 198/220 and Strongman Corp has 200/231 for middleweights...
Right. So like I said. Seriously doubt he's going for the 220/231 weight classes -- so the answer to the question is YUP -- he's 200 lbs and looks like that. And can farmer carry 3x BW his first time trying...
Ok, cool, I guess I have to go full Steven/Montfort and hate him. I mean, J seems like a good guy, and he’s doing a lot of good for the training world and yards yadda, but I weigh 202 at 2 inches taller and you don’t get to make me somehow feel skinny and fat at the same time. Jerk.
Yeah. It gets a little depressing on his instragram. I'm his height (slightly taller) and his weight and feel both skinny and fat as well lol -- but the fact he can bench, pull AND press for 6-8 reps what I hope to do for 1 3-5 years from now after recomping to be closer to his muscle mass is... demotivating lol. At least my squat will catch his 8rm in only a year or two...
If you put it in context, though, it makes some sense. The guy has been training 4-6 days per week for over a decade and has missed something like 3 training sessions in that time (his self-reported # of missed sessions in a couple of podcasts with Austin). Sure, he’s got great genetics, but if you or I could train that consistently for that long (and with Mike T. doing the bulk of the programming) I suspect we’d be much closer to his levels of performance/aesthetics.
mouse wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 8:09 am
Novice is usually a pretty diverse group... and should never be intimidating, even if there are dudes stronger than you. Novice class is there because its well... novice. Most of the dudes there are probably also first time competitors, or at least first time STRONGMAN competitors. It sounds cliche but you probably won't find a more supportive group of lifters.
Started to do the research. The event closest to me has the following for "novice LW"
Axel clean/press w/ 205 lbs for reps (60s)
Strongman squat for reps w/ 365 (60s)
Husafel stone 250 lb 100' walk for time
Arm over arm seated pull with 350 lb for 60' for time
Last man standing Atlas stones 185 lb
All of that is fairly "accessible" except that freaking press. Will definitely have to work on press strength to actually do one of these things.
Remember, it isn’t strict press, you can push press or even jerk the weight. My strict press is pretty weak also, but I think I’m going to enter a strongman novice event in 2020. Maybe we should start a “too weak for strongman” thread/support group...
augeleven wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 3:59 pm
Remember, it isn’t strict press, you can push press or even jerk the weight. My strict press is pretty weak also, but I think I’m going to enter a strongman novice event in 2020. Maybe we should start a “too weak for strongman” thread/support group...
FredM wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 3:54 pm
Started to do the research. The event closest to me has the following for "novice LW"
Axel clean/press w/ 205 lbs for reps (60s)
Strongman squat for reps w/ 365 (60s)
Husafel stone 250 lb 100' walk for time
Arm over arm seated pull with 350 lb for 60' for time
Last man standing Atlas stones 185 lb
All of that is fairly "accessible" except that freaking press. Will definitely have to work on press strength to actually do one of these things.
Everything does seem right on except the press... based on the other weights I would have made that like 185ish... but @augeleven is right that you certainly have options in terms of how you get it over your head.
A strongman contest with a squat is kind of rare-ish... but I would expect it to be with a weird implement (usually tires) that have to touch a pair of boxes. Whether or not they let you TnG off the boxes is up to how nice the promoter is lol...
mouse wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 2:34 am
Everything does seem right on except the press... based on the other weights I would have made that like 185ish... but @augeleven is right that you certainly have options in terms of how you get it over your head.
A strongman contest with a squat is kind of rare-ish... but I would expect it to be with a weird implement (usually tires) that have to touch a pair of boxes. Whether or not they let you TnG off the boxes is up to how nice the promoter is lol...
Yeah -- I currently have no clue how much I could log push press or log jerk, but my strict press being at 155 leads me to conclude -- probably not 205 yet. I'll start finding out early next year I guess
They're actually explicit with the squat -- you get a cue to get off the boxes so it's basically a pin squat with tires, which makes it slightly easier than a pin squat. I could probably do 3-4 reps in 60s of that right now so that's a huge selling point for me (that htis particular one has a squat component) -- give me a year and I might not even embarrass myself on that event.
FredM wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:30 am
They're actually explicit with the squat -- you get a cue to get off the boxes so it's basically a pin squat with tires, which makes it slightly easier than a pin squat. I could probably do 3-4 reps in 60s of that right now so that's a huge selling point for me (that htis particular one has a squat component) -- give me a year and I might not even embarrass myself on that event.
My guess is if you can legitimately do 3-4 at that weight now in training you should be able to get 6+ in competition lol...
Unless you get a promoter/crew who knows what actual depth is haha, but I had an event exactly like that where the weight was 475 and even though that was basically my training max (I had hit one horrifying pin squat at 465 if I remember right) I got 5 reps because they were basically half squats.
But yeah dude go for it and keep everybody posted... it's a good time...
Yeah -- I currently have no clue how much I could log push press or log jerk, but my strict press being at 155 leads me to conclude -- probably not 205 yet. I'll start finding out early next year I guess
Try it out. My best strict press ever is 190, and my best log jerk is 245. You may very well be able to get 205.
FredM wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 7:30 am
They're actually explicit with the squat -- you get a cue to get off the boxes so it's basically a pin squat with tires, which makes it slightly easier than a pin squat. I could probably do 3-4 reps in 60s of that right now so that's a huge selling point for me (that htis particular one has a squat component) -- give me a year and I might not even embarrass myself on that event.
My guess is if you can legitimately do 3-4 at that weight now in training you should be able to get 6+ in competition lol...
Unless you get a promoter/crew who knows what actual depth is haha, but I had an event exactly like that where the weight was 475 and even though that was basically my training max (I had hit one horrifying pin squat at 465 if I remember right) I got 5 reps because they were basically half squats.
But yeah dude go for it and keep everybody posted... it's a good time...
I was already taking that into account when I said 3-4 lol. My e1rm low bar is 410-425 -- the latter calculated from my 315x8@8 last week. The MW non novice class has 495 for the squats -- I'm probably 2 years from managing that lol.
I'll definitely try one next year. The two near me are both soonish. I'm not physically or mentally prepared to jump into a strong man in a couple weeks lol. Thanks again for all the info, though. Very helpful for planning for 2020.
Joey Szatmary recaps his 242/275 Overall title at USS Nats this past weekend...
Fun fact... the gym I occasionally train event days at is now home to two national strongman champions, Tony Kalisz in master 242 and Luke Birkby in the HW teens (only his second contest... ever)... so that's super cool...
Also Jordan's recap from his first strongman contest at Untamed Strength...
Spoiler... he did pretty well even with only 2 weeks to train and no real time on the implements because he's damn strong. Deep down I want to know if he copied someone's start on the truck push or if he came up with it on the fly. I laughed super hard when he pushed off the tire...
