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by MarkKO » Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:02 am
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:24 am
augeleven wrote: ↑Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:15 am
That’s insane. My experience is normally the longer the plateau, the faster the drop when it starts to actually happen. I hope you experience that.
I pray that is the case. This is just getting nuts.
How accurate is the Macrofactor activity estimator? That would be the first place I'd look.
The reason I ask is because I know from my own experience that if you're moving and active pretty much all your work day - so eight to 10 hours - that expenditure is going to be somewhere between 750 and 1250 calories. I get that rather large window by comparing what I need to eat to maintain weight if I'm at work compared to if I'm not (while training remains constant).
I don't know what you do for work, but I would guess that if you're not seeing the downwards trend you want while your calories are pretty darn low then a likely culprit is that the estimate of your expenditure is way out.
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by JohnHelton » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:25 am
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by JohnHelton » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:27 am
Cut Day 79
87.0/87.9 - Nice drop
Target Calories - 2209
Avg. Calories - 2262
Expenditure - 2479
Deadlift - LP
Tuesday 20 Sep 2022, 07:08
Sumo Deadlift (Barbell)
Set 1: 80 kg × 5 [Warm-up]
Set 2: 115 kg × 3 [Warm-up]
Set 3: 145 kg × 1 [Warm-up]
Set 4: 165 kg × 1 [Warm-up]
Set 5: 182.5 kg × 3
Set 6: 192.5 kg × 3
Set 7: 202.5 kg × 3
Just keeping it warm, but deadlifts are never easy.
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by JohnHelton » Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:00 am
The couple areas that can throw the calculation off are poor nutrition tracking and water retention. I think that I have done a good job with the tracking. However, I may have been retaining water, which should normalize with time. I think water retention is the biggest reason that weight loss isn't linear assuming compliance.
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by James » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:14 am
If I eat ramen, jerky or hot dogs more than one or two days in a row my weight will jump 10lbs even without going over my calorie goal then drop right off the next week.
Eat anything salty lately?
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by JohnHelton » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:51 am
James wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:14 am
If I eat ramen, jerky or hot dogs more than one or two days in a row my weight will jump 10lbs even without going over my calorie goal then drop right off the next week.
Eat anything salty lately?
No. But I'm finishing a course of antibiotics from oral surgery. I'm hoping that is it.
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by MarkKO » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:24 pm
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:00 am
The couple areas that can throw the calculation off are poor nutrition tracking and water retention. I think that I have done a good job with the tracking. However, I may have been retaining water, which should normalize with time. I think water retention is the biggest reason that weight loss isn't linear assuming compliance.
I'm absolutely with you on that.
Also, I forgot you're on antibiotics. That would easily explain a jump in weight, let alone a stall in loss.
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by JohnHelton » Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:34 am
Cut Day 80
87.1/87.9
Target Calories - 2209
Avg. Calories - 2250
Expenditure - 2464
2nd shingles vaccine shot yesterday. I woke up this morning super achy.
Bench Press - Session 1
Wednesday 21 Sep 2022, 07:35
Bench Press (Barbell)
Set 1: 45 kg × 5 [Warm-up]
Set 2: 65 kg × 3 [Warm-up]
Set 3: 80 kg × 1 [Warm-up]
Set 4: 95 kg × 7
Set 5: 95 kg × 7
Set 6: 95 kg × 7
Set 7: 95 kg × 7
Set 8: 95 kg × 7
Set 9: 95 kg × 7
Set 10: 95 kg × 7 @ 9.5
Notes: 65% x 7 x 7-11. I thought this might be tough this morning. My muscle endurance usually sucks anyway. I figured that I would just keep doing sets until I got close to failure. That turned out to be the minimum prescription.
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by JohnHelton » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:06 am
Cut Day 81
87.6/87.8
Target Calories - 1908
Avg. Calories - 2239
Expenditure - 2451
Current Week Avg. Steps - 11,211
I just realized that I had a setting wrong on MacroFacto so that it wasn't changing my calories week-to-week. I reset that, and now it has severely reduced my calories. This next week isn't going to be fun.
Was very achy again this morning. Slept like crap.
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by slowmotion » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:27 am
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:34 am
Notes: 65% x 7 x 7-11. I thought this might be tough this morning. My muscle endurance usually sucks anyway. I figured that I would just keep doing sets until I got close to failure. That turned out to be the minimum prescription.
Lots of benching still, at 65%. How did you feel the day after?
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by JohnHelton » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:32 am
slowmotion wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:27 am
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:34 am
Notes: 65% x 7 x 7-11. I thought this might be tough this morning. My muscle endurance usually sucks anyway. I figured that I would just keep doing sets until I got close to failure. That turned out to be the minimum prescription.
Lots of benching still, at 65%. How did you feel the day after?
My chest felt fine from the benching, but I felt like crap from the shingles vaccine. It seems like I can do pressing volume without any issues. I also think pushing lighter weights close to failure after a ton of sets isn't that hard on the body. I need to test this with squat and deadlift.
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by slowmotion » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:47 am
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:32 am
slowmotion wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:27 am
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:34 am
Notes: 65% x 7 x 7-11. I thought this might be tough this morning. My muscle endurance usually sucks anyway. I figured that I would just keep doing sets until I got close to failure. That turned out to be the minimum prescription.
Lots of benching still, at 65%. How did you feel the day after?
My chest felt fine from the benching, but I felt like crap from the shingles vaccine. It seems like I can do pressing volume without any issues. I also think pushing lighter weights close to failure after a ton of sets isn't that hard on the body. I need to test this with squat and deadlift.
65% x 7 x 7 - 11 on deadlifts sounds "interesting".
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by JohnHelton » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:37 pm
slowmotion wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:47 am
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:32 am
slowmotion wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:27 am
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:34 am
Notes: 65% x 7 x 7-11. I thought this might be tough this morning. My muscle endurance usually sucks anyway. I figured that I would just keep doing sets until I got close to failure. That turned out to be the minimum prescription.
Lots of benching still, at 65%. How did you feel the day after?
My chest felt fine from the benching, but I felt like crap from the shingles vaccine. It seems like I can do pressing volume without any issues. I also think pushing lighter weights close to failure after a ton of sets isn't that hard on the body. I need to test this with squat and deadlift.
65% x 7 x 7 - 11 on deadlifts sounds "interesting".
My thought on deadlift was starting light with 2r x 8s within a 30 minute window. Then increase slowly until it was untenable, which would probably be around an @8-9 on the last set. It seems like that would be a pretty good workout.
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by slowmotion » Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:15 pm
JohnHelton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:37 pm
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My thought on deadlift was starting light with 2r x 8s within a 30 minute window. Then increase slowly until it was untenable, which would probably be around an @8-9 on the last set. It seems like that would be a pretty good workout.
That sounds like a good plan.
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by JohnHelton » Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:56 am
Cut Day 82
87.1/87.8
Target Calories - 1908
Avg. Calories - 2180
Expenditure - 2443
Current Week Avg. Steps - 11,567
Friday 23 Sep 2022, 07:29
Bench Press - Session 2
Bench Press (Barbell)
Set 1: 95 kg × 4
Set 2: 95 kg × 4
Set 3: 95 kg × 4
Set 4: 95 kg × 4
Set 5: 95 kg × 4
Set 6: 95 kg × 4
Set 7: 95 kg × 4
Set 8: 95 kg × 4
Set 9: 95 kg × 4
Set 10: 95 kg × 4
Set 11: 95 kg × 4
Set 12: 95 kg × 4
Note: 4x8-12, double progression
Note: 2:10 rest. 28:42 for worksets. Bump weight next time.
Squat - Session 1
Squat (Barbell)
Set 1: 120 kg × 4
Set 2: 120 kg × 4
Set 3: 120 kg × 4
Set 4: 120 kg × 4
Set 5: 120 kg × 4
Set 6: 120 kg × 4
Set 7: 120 kg × 4
Set 8: 120 kg × 4
Set 9: 120 kg × 4
Set 10: 120 kg × 4
Note: 4x8-10, double progression
Note: 2:45 rest. 32:00 for total session. Reduce rest to 2:35. Not as easy as I anticipated, but still need to bump weight next time.
I've changed things up a bit. Simplified and reduced weight so that I can manufacture some momentum.
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by JohnHelton » Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:53 pm
Program thoughts:
Bench Sessions:
1) 6x9-12
2) 4x9-12
3) 2x9-12
Initial weights picked using 145/320 e1RM and 400 HNFM. I will just make linear progress until I can't get 12 sets. Reduce the weight if I can't get 9.
Squat Sessions:
1) 4x8-10
2) 2x8-10
Initial weights picked using 215/475 e1RM and 200 HNFM.
Deadlift Session:
1) 2x6-8
Initial weights picked using 265/585 e1RM and 200 HNFM.
Setting rest timer such that I get all the worksets done in 30 minutes. I thought about going quicker, but I want strength to be the limiter. I will try to hit each of these during a microcycle, but I will play it by ear, hitting the higher intensity when I feel better. Also, my microcycles aren't constrained by a calendar 7 day week.
The initial weights are pretty light. That seems right given the cut. Hopefully, I will be eating more calories soon...before it gets hard. And I expect this to get hard. That said, it is autoregulated. Assuming no grinding, if I can't get the prescribed reps on my 10th set of squat, I think that is a very different stress than failing the 3rd set. Any thoughts on that last comment, @Hanley?
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by JohnHelton » Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:31 am
Cut Day 83
85.8/87.6
Target Calories - 1908
Avg. Calories - 2175
Expenditure - 2441
Current Week Avg. Steps - 10,760
NIce big drop in weight. Getting close.
Legs are so sore from that squat workout.
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by JohnHelton » Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:35 am
Cut Day 84
NA/87.4
Target Calories - 1,908
Avg. Calories - 2,167
Expenditure - 2,441
Current Week Avg. Steps - 10,905
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by JohnHelton » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:37 am
Cut Day 85
87.0/87.4
Target Calories - 2,090
Avg. Calories - 2,151
Expenditure - 2,452
Current Week Avg. Steps - 10,777
We took my son to visit UT Austin and his sister over the weekend. He doesn't like change, so he is nervous about going to college, but I think the trip went a long way in easing that anxiety. Maddy was a great tour guide. This was Jack's first trip to the school. Usually he stays home with our pets when we visit Maddy. Jack is only applying to UT and A&M. He is an automatic admit to both, but he still has to be accepted to the physics department.
Bench Press - Session 3
Monday 26 Sep 2022, 06:52
Bench Press (Barbell)
Set 1: 110 kg × 2
Set 2: 110 kg × 2
Set 3: 110 kg × 2
Set 4: 110 kg × 2
Set 5: 110 kg × 2
Set 6: 110 kg × 2
Set 7: 110 kg × 2
Set 8: 110 kg × 2
Set 9: 110 kg × 2
Set 10: 110 kg × 2
Set 11: 110 kg × 2
Set 12: 110 kg × 2
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by JohnHelton » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:23 am
Cut Day 86
86.5/87.3
Goal - 85 kg
Target Calories - 2,090
Avg. Calories - 2,127
MF Expenditure - 2,465 - My calculations are showing that my TDEE is now running closer to 2,950. I think the step count is helping.
Current Week Avg. Steps - 11,231
The stall has broken (for now) and the weight is dropping pretty fast. I should be adding calories back on Friday.
Squat - Session 2
Tuesday, September 27, 2022
Squat (Barbell)
147.5 kg x 2 x 10
This felt like a good starting point for this progression. <30 min for worksets.
ETA: Today is going to be official the end of the cut from a MF perspective. I switched the app to Maintenance with a target weight of 85kg. The app has set my target calories to 2,323 given its view of my TDEE and the need to guide me a bit lower. As I approach the goal weight, it will slowly raise my calories. I'm ready for that to happen. I plan to keep close track of my calories going forward. I don't want an unintentional bulk.