Best Trap Bar with Low Handles

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Re: Best Trap Bar with Low Handles

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Post by bobmen10000 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:45 am

Eleiko Öppen Deadlift Bar Review: Best Trap Bar Available! - so sayeth Coop. Only $799.00. Looks good, wish it was under $500.00 and had multiple hand heights.


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Post by bobmen10000 » Tue May 21, 2019 7:28 am

https://store.kabukistrength.net/produc ... hxZWZBNSJ9

Kabuki's bar was up for sale last night, sold out fairly quickly. Looks pretty sweet and is substantially cheaper than the Eleiko.

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Post by ccoyle » Tue May 21, 2019 8:49 am

mgil wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:26 am Has anyone used an original trap bar? I forget the name of the guy who was making them. Anyhow, the YMCA had one, and it was pretty solid. It only had low handles and the knurl was the most aggressive I've encountered to date, and I own an OPB and have used TPBs.

Just an aside.

I have a roughly 20 year old original Gerard Trap Bar. I use it regularly for TB Deads .

I've read some comments on this thread that later versions are an improvement on the original design. If we're only talking low handles, I can't see why. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage to the hex configuration.

The story I heard was that Gerard patented the diamond design, so competitors went to the hex to avoid infringing.
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Post by FredM » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:41 am

bobmen10000 wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 7:28 am https://store.kabukistrength.net/produc ... hxZWZBNSJ9

Kabuki's bar was up for sale last night, sold out fairly quickly. Looks pretty sweet and is substantially cheaper than the Eleiko.
It’s not. Tried to checkout with this thing last night. $210 for shipping to ma. That’s $810.

Yeah... no.

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Post by iamsmu » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:35 am

ccoyle wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 8:49 am
I have a roughly 20 year old original Gerard Trap Bar. I use it regularly for TB Deads .

I've read some comments on this thread that later versions are an improvement on the original design. If we're only talking low handles, I can't see why. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage to the hex configuration.

The story I heard was that Gerard patented the diamond design, so competitors went to the hex to avoid infringing.
That's cool. The diamond pattern looks like it would easier to hang on the wall. I guess I could rig up two hooks or something for the hex to get it off the floor. . . .

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Post by mbasic » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 am

ccoyle wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 8:49 am I have a roughly 20 year old original Gerard Trap Bar. I use it regularly for TB Deads .
I've read some comments on this thread that later versions are an improvement on the original design. If we're only talking low handles, I can't see why. I don't see any advantage or disadvantage to the hex configuration.
The story I heard was that Gerard patented the diamond design, so competitors went to the hex to avoid infringing.
a closed hexagon vs the diamond type? yeah I don't see any difference.

But the newer hex design with the open end, yeah, that's kinda neato.
You can do lunges and some other shit with it.
The tip-over-ez-load feature: I guess for kids, weak girls, older folks, globo-gyms, etc ... this might be a selling point.

You could make a diamond shaped bar this way, but most of the newer designs the plate-sleeves are set up wider...
...to where its rackable in a standard rack (rack pulls, NG presses, etc)...
and the plates will be wide enough to actually land in the rubber on a normal deadlift platform.
(most older hex/diamond bars are narrow, and will land partially in the "wood")

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Post by iamsmu » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:54 am

mbasic wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 am
(most older hex/diamond bars are narrow, and will land partially in the "wood")
Yes. this is a big drawback for using them on a platform. Also, if you are using the low handles on a dual handle bar, the high handles are facing down when you unload. They ding up the platform when you take off the last plate. (I try to put the deadwedge under the handle to catch it, but it doesn't always work.)

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iamsmu wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:54 am
mbasic wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 am
(most older hex/diamond bars are narrow, and will land partially in the "wood")
Yes. this is a big drawback for using them on a platform. Also, if you are using the low handles on a dual handle bar, the high handles are facing down when you unload. They ding up the platform when you take off the last plate. (I try to put the deadwedge under the handle to catch it, but it doesn't always work.)
At my globo gym the trap bars are the cheap standard narrow type.
People use iron plates and the plates hit right at the edge of the wood/rubber line.
It chips the wood.

People use bumpers; it still damages the wood a bit, and starts to cut up the bumpers too.

If they were smart, you could put a collar(or two) on the empty bar before loading and make a spacer of sorts to spread the plates out to the rubber.
....it'd be still close. You'd have to set up perfectly center and lift like a robot.
...And use the iron plates (to load more). My gym its rare to 3 plates on the trap bar.

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Post by bobmen10000 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:29 am

FredM wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:41 am
bobmen10000 wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 7:28 am https://store.kabukistrength.net/produc ... hxZWZBNSJ9

Kabuki's bar was up for sale last night, sold out fairly quickly. Looks pretty sweet and is substantially cheaper than the Eleiko.
It’s not. Tried to checkout with this thing last night. $210 for shipping to ma. That’s $810.

Yeah... no.
Shipping is ridiculous; I originally did not think it would be that much. I have almost bought the Kabuki bar each time it comes available but the shipping costs makes me go "this is way too expensive" then I lose out the window. The Eleiko Trap Bar to Ohio is $821.00 (including $21.00 hipping) so the price is virtually identical for me between the two bars. I prefer the Kabuki bar based on the specs but I imagine the Eleiko would have better resale value.

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Post by FredM » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:11 am

bobmen10000 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:29 am
FredM wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:41 am
bobmen10000 wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 7:28 am https://store.kabukistrength.net/produc ... hxZWZBNSJ9

Kabuki's bar was up for sale last night, sold out fairly quickly. Looks pretty sweet and is substantially cheaper than the Eleiko.
It’s not. Tried to checkout with this thing last night. $210 for shipping to ma. That’s $810.

Yeah... no.
Shipping is ridiculous; I originally did not think it would be that much. I have almost bought the Kabuki bar each time it comes available but the shipping costs makes me go "this is way too expensive" then I lose out the window. The Eleiko Trap Bar to Ohio is $821.00 (including $21.00 hipping) so the price is virtually identical for me between the two bars. I prefer the Kabuki bar based on the specs but I imagine the Eleiko would have better resale value.
I love the design. If I ever pull 700 I’ll buy it or the Eleiko in celebration.

But I feel ridiculous spending that much cash on a 450 pull. Edge fitness dropped all their prices. Rickshaw is $282 shipped. Need about a week to convince myself I want it before Black Friday 😉

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Re: Best Trap Bar with Low Handles

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Post by ccoyle » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:41 pm

mbasic wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:52 am
a closed hexagon vs the diamond type? yeah I don't see any difference.

. . .

You could make a diamond shaped bar this way, but most of the newer designs the plate-sleeves are set up wider...
...to where its rackable in a standard rack (rack pulls, NG presses, etc)...
and the plates will be wide enough to actually land in the rubber on a normal deadlift platform.
(most older hex/diamond bars are narrow, and will land partially in the "wood")
Right. You can't rack the original Gerard trap bar.

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Post by mbasic » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:26 pm

But I agree with you ..in a garage setting, most of this shit doesn't matter and/or the "cons" are easily overcome.

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Post by Hanley » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:03 am

bobmen10000 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:45 am Eleiko Öppen Deadlift Bar Review: Best Trap Bar Available!
Does anybody have one of these?

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Re: Best Trap Bar with Low Handles

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Post by SeanHerbison » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:49 am

Hanley wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:03 am
bobmen10000 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:45 am Eleiko Öppen Deadlift Bar Review: Best Trap Bar Available!
Does anybody have one of these?
Get one, Hanley. Be the trend-starter.

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Post by Hanley » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:24 am

SeanHerbison wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:49 am
Hanley wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:03 am
bobmen10000 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:45 am Eleiko Öppen Deadlift Bar Review: Best Trap Bar Available!
Does anybody have one of these?
Get one, Hanley. Be the trend-starter.
The gear-whore devil on my shoulder.

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Post by OrderInChaos » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:52 am

Hanley wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:24 am The gear-whore devil on my shoulder.
Save money not buying an Eleiko and get a vintage ES-175, you know you want it... plus the PGP is roughly equal for each (at that 0 asymptote)

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Post by Hanley » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:29 pm

OrderInChaos wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:52 amyou know you want it
I want it so bad.

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Post by bobmen10000 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:27 am

Can't help with the guitar but if you lived within 150 miles of me in lieu of 1500+ miles, I would go halvesies on the eleiko trap bar.

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Post by Skander » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:09 pm

bobmen10000 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:27 am Can't help with the guitar but if you lived within 150 miles of me in lieu of 1500+ miles, I would go halvesies on the eleiko trap bar.
Would you pull it in half like a wishbone? 🤔

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