Press 1.0/1.5/2.0 Etc.

[Justin]

Is there a forum consensus on press technique? I'm new around here and I've seen various jokes about the double layback press, but I haven't seen much about press 1.0 vs 2.0.

Does it matter?

[Stenson]

I don't think it matters much. Personally I breathe at the top and pause briefly at the bottom, and do all my reps strict. Sometimes I do a "touch and go" press where I don't pause, but I count that as a separate exercise and only do it on high rep sets, because it's tiring holding that floating rack position for a 10 rep set. I don't 2.0 because frankly I don't really care about my press 1RM, or any RM for that matter.

[mgil]

What are you using the press for?

When weight gets heavy, the shove out of the bottom will make my hips move forward a bit, but it’s not a hips first motion.

Regardless, we don’t much care so long as it’s not complete nonsense where it’s double layback and the bar drops 4”.

[Justin]

What are you using the press for?

I heard all real men have a strong press.

I'm not a competitor of any kind if that's what you're asking. So I'm using it for general strength.

[Justin]

I don't 2.0 because frankly I don't really care about my press 1RM, or any RM for that matter.

Which implies 2.0 is really only useful for getting more weight on the bar and not for actually getting bigger/stronger?

[Stenson]

I don't 2.0 because frankly I don't really care about my press 1RM, or any RM for that matter.

Which implies 2.0 is really only useful for getting more weight on the bar and not for actually getting bigger/stronger?

It's useful to get more weight on the bar, for sure. It's useful for getting stronger as well, but more so than strict pressing? That's debatable. Personally I keep it strict because A) my low back gets cranky if I lay back too much and B) I use it as an accessory lift, so absolute weight on the bar isn't all that important to me.

[mgil]

@Justin, I’d just say do as strict of a press as possible. It’s mainly going to develop anterior deltoids and traps, and it’s not all that taxing for triceps. If it helps your shoulders feel good or you just like doing them then cool. I like doing press.

[KyleSchuant]

Press 1.0. No shenanigans.

[Fzt]

A little bit of hip motion is fine but try to keep your knees locked. It ultimately doesn't matter too much unless you're in crossfit because it isn't a contested lift in any federation of any significance

[Justin]

Thanks all.

[jwilson625]

it isn't a contested lift in any federation of any significance

http://ameriburn.org/public-resources/b ... ional-map/

[TimK]

I keep my knees locked and don't throw my hips around or turn it into a jerk but I do have some layback at heavier weights and I perform reps touch-and-go.

[broseph]

I keep my knees locked and don't throw my hips around or turn it into a jerk but I do have some layback at heavier weights and I perform reps touch-and-go.

+1

[platypus]

2.0s feel easier out of the bottom for me, so I use 1.0s. It seems like a better shoulder workout.

I'm also not particularly good at presses, so my opinions can be safely ignored. @mgil is a pressing demigod though.

[ChasingCurls69]

I keep my knees locked and do 2.0 with some layback, but also carry the bar as low as possible on my chest. I draw the line at the bar stopping entirely or dropping during the second layback. Both will be good for developing the same musculature, but if you don't care about the press weight it doesn't necessarily matter for hypertrophy purposes.

[ChrisMcCarthy1979]

As long as you're not affiliated with SS in anyway then this Forum will love you regardless of how you Press, or how much...

[mouse]

I keep my knees locked and don't throw my hips around or turn it into a jerk but I do have some layback at heavier weights and I perform reps touch-and-go.

+1

+2

Hi therrrre... I don't know so much about forum consensus but some time back I transitioned away from the bouncy hips 2.0 thing and started doing all my press volume as a strict press to start with subsequent reps being TnG, breathe at the top (or ya know... 1.0). This is for the most part true for any overhead variation for me, with some occasional differences (I will sometimes pause+breathe at the bottom with log work, etc).

I will do the bouncy hips and unavoidable layback on max singles for sure, but I haven't really done singles in a few months... and all that goes out the window on an implement I'd be actually competing with anyway so...

[ohlol]

I do 2.0 on my "comp press" day and strict unbelted press for a supplemental lift

[Rjodi]

I started with a pretty strictish press, well as much as novice form would allow. When I started doing SS, they had me switch to the 2.0 version with the hip movement thrown in there. Always gave me knee pain, don't like it at all.

[KyleSchuant]

It's trying to turn the press into a quick lift. It's fucking stupid. And the less said of the Tequila Layback Press the better.

I did 2.0 and coached it in my lifters for two years. All it did was make a simple lift more complicated.