For the life of me, I could not find this term used within the realm of exercise movements.
Please explain.
lol it’s not an official term at all. Israetel calls them that because it’s a technique Jared (Jerry) Feather uses where you essentially keep your arms out away from your thighs at the bottom. That way you get a deep stretch in the lengthened position of a curl. I’m sure it wastes a bit of energy on front delts but I get one helluva stretch in my biceps when doing them. They feel great for me but can’t use as much weight.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:49 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 196.7 lbs (2630 cals maintenance)
Comp Squat:
335 @8.5
285x1 x4 sets (Beltless/60s rests)
Comp Bench: Paused/Beltless
235 @9
195x1 x5 sets (Beltless/paused/60s rests)
SLDL: Beltless/Negs/2 min rest/Cobras
225x8 x2 sets
Oly SFP: negs w pauses/no lockouts/60s rest
85x8,6 (@10)
Oly Arm Curls: negs w pauses/60s rest
85x9,6 (@9.5)
***58 mins
-very fatigued today but strength is trending up believe it or not. Still weak AF. Heaviest weights I’ve handled since November.
-SLDL was pure hell on the last set. I’ll be resetting arm accessory weights soon, trying for more reps than previous.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:51 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 197.2 lbs (2630 cals maintenance)
Seated BB Overhead Press: Beltless/Negs w Pause/2 min rests
105 x10,9,7 (@10) +2 reps
LP Bench: Paused/Length partial no locks/2 min rest
150 x10,9 (@10) +5 lbs, -1 rep
Chins: Negs w dead hands/cobras/60s rests
BW x8,6,5 (@10) +1 rep
BB Bent Face Pulls (SS) High Upright Rows negs/cobras/60s rest
45 x14+12 (@9) +4 reps
45 x14+12 (@10) +6 reps
Incline Seated DB Curls: negs w Stretch pauses/60s rest
28’s x10,8 (@10) +0 reps
***48 mins total
-my biceps were fried on first set of DB curls. Still haven’t decided if I’ll stick to this training. I might be noticing some hypertrophy but as a natural, waiting for muscle growth is slower than watching grass grow.
-using MUCH lighter weights is definitely a hit to my ego but my joints seem happier right now. I don’t know how much longer I can handle high bar squats. It’s the only movement I’m hating besides Chins.
-Also tried flaring elbows during lengthened partials flat bench and could finally feel a pec stretch! My chest finally got a pump from bench for the first time ever. Even when I had a 340 bench my pecs never got pumped.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 1:58 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 197.6 lbs (2630 cals)
Deadlift: Beltless
285
325
365 @7.5
385 @9
315x1 x3 sets (Beltless/DOH/60s rest)
High Bar Squats: Beltless/Deep Pauses/2 min rest
155 x10 x2 sets (@9.5) +2 reps
Incline Bench: Length Partials w pauses/no locks/2 min rest/beltless
145 x10 x2 sets (@10) +1 rep
EZ SFP: negs w stretch pauses/60s rest
60 x12 x2 sets (@10) +2 reps
EZ Arm Curls: negs w stretch pauses/60s rest
60 x12,10 (@9.5) +3 reps
***61 mins total
-Deadlift max went up about 25 lbs from 4 weeks ago.
-paused high bar squats kicked my ass. I control the descent and pause fairly deep.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:04 pm
by cole
for my next squat growth slot i think i am gonna do the paused high bar squats. seems like a good quad hypertrophy stimulus
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:06 pm
by MattimusMaximus
cole wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:04 pm
for my next squat growth slot i think i am gonna do the paused high bar squats. seems like a good quad hypertrophy stimulus
I definitely feel it in my quads more which I rarely feel from low bar. Can also get deeper in high bar position and really stretch the quads in the hole.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:55 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 197.7 lbs (2630 cals, might have to drop)
Comp Squat: Beltless/2 min rest
225x5 x4 sets
Comp Bench: Beltless/Control TnG/2 min rests
150x5 x5
SLDL: Cobras/Negs/2 min rest
235x8 x2 sets (@9)
Oly SFP: negs w Stretch pauses/no locks/60s rests
85x6 x3 sets (@9)
Oly Jerry Curls: negs w stretch pauses/60s rests
85x6 x3 sets (@9)
***60 mins total
-Still really focusing on technique and milking the lengthened portions of all accessory. I’m guessing some of the 3 lbs I’ve gained over the past 5 ish weeks might be some muscle regain. Haven’t taken creatine since November.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:38 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 197.4 lbs
Seated BB Paused Overhead Press: 2 min rests
105 x10,9,7 (@9.5)
LP Paused Bench: 2 min rest
155 x9 x2 sets (@9.5)
Weighted Chins: dead hangs/cobras/60s rests
BW+30 lbs x5,5,4 (@10)
BB Bent Face Pulls (SS) BB High Upright Rows: 60s rest/cobras
50 x12 +10 (@8)
50 x12 +10 (@9.5)
Incline DB Curls: Stretch pauses/60s rest
22’s x12,10 (@10)
***51 mins total
-DB curls are targeting my left (smaller) biceps a lot more using the stretch pauses. There’s about 3/8” difference in size so hoping it brings that up a bit.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:42 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 198.1 lbs (error in cal counting put me in surplus this week. Oops)
Deadlift: Beltless/DOH/2 min rests
245x5 x3 sets
High Bar Paused Squats: Beltless/2 min rest
165x8 @8.5
165x8 @9.5
Incline Paused Bench: Length Partials/2 min rest
150x10 @9
150x8 @9
EZ SFP: stretched pauses/90s rest
60 x13 @9.5
60 x12 @10
EZ Arm Curls: stretched pauses/90s rest
60 x13 @9
60 x11 @10
***49 mins total
-deadlifts are feeling a bit more groovy and easier.
-I really hate high bar squats. It’s so uncomfortable on the traps. I much prefer low bar back placement. Hoping one day I can get a leg press or extension for quad focused hypertrophy instead.
-All targeted muscles were destroyed after today’s session. I’m really tired now.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:56 am
by cole
MattimusMaximus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:42 pm
Hoping one day I can get a leg press or extension for quad focused hypertrophy instead.
I have given this some thought. @Skid bought a nice leg press/hack squat machine. he is up in canada like you. it wasnt in my price range, sounds like it wont be in yours either, so ive been thinking of some creative ways to get better quad hypertrophy.
1 - split squats are bad ass, especially if you can elevate the rear leg (bulgarian) and i prefer a BB as i seem to be able to balance better. let the knee slide forward as much as possible while keeping your torso up right. if you bend over too much it seems to shift the demands to the glutes more.
2 - wall hack squats. place foam roller between your back and the wall. squat down like your doing a wall sit. do this while holding a barbell (with straps) under you. i havent tried this yet but these are supposed to murder your quads as you have no way of shifting the load once the quad gets fatigued, so you can really get close to failure with all quad primary.
3- Platz squats. feet really close together and elevate heels on plates or stoppers. Also havent tried yet but in theory seems like it could get the quads real good.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:05 am
by MattimusMaximus
@cole those look badass! My basement (gym) unfortunately has no finished walls for the foam roller hack squats (it’s all insulation/poly). I think for reducing axial loading I’ll just have to suck it up for now with the paused high bar and hopefully save for a cheap leg press or extension in the future.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:43 pm
by Clearwater47
If you have an SSB Bar I'd give Hatfield Squats a shot. If you don't have one, maybe consider it. It's much cheaper than a hack squat and/or leg press machine, and in my experience, works the quads really well.
But I'm with you on wanting a leg press/hack squat. Been eyeing them up for a few years now...
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:03 pm
by MattimusMaximus
@Clearwater47
Hmm a SSB might be a better money saving option for my cheap ass!
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:52 pm
by Clearwater47
At first I didn't use mine a whole lot because squats with them felt quite a bit different, but I now use it very regularly and it's become one of my best investments. I have absolutely no regrets about getting one.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:24 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 197.9 lbs (back to 2630 maintenance)
Low Bar Squat: Beltless/2 min rests
235x5 x4 sets
Bench: Beltless/Control TnG/2 min rests
155x5 x5
SLDL: Cobra Grips/negs/2 min rest
245 x8 @9
245 x7 @10
Oly SFP: Stretch pauses/90s rests
87.5 x6 x3 sets @10
Oly Arm Curls: Stretch pauses/90s rests
87.5 x6 x3 sets @9.5
***64 mins
-took longer due to the concurrent eclipse. Lots of fatigue today. May “deload” soon to dissipate fatigue.
Re: GainzZz For Valhalla
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:04 pm
by MattimusMaximus
BW: 197.0 lbs (2630 cals)
Seated BB Paused Overhead Press: 2 min rests
110 x8 (@8.5)
110 x7 (@9)
110 x6 (@9)
LP Paused Bench: 2 min rest
160 x9 (@8.5)
160 x8 (@9.5)
Chins: Supine/Cobra Grips/dead hang pauses
BW x9 (@9.5)
BW x6 (@9.5)
BW x5 (@10)
BB Bent Face Pulls (SS) BB High Upright Rows 90s rest
55 x12 +10 (@9)
55 x10 +8 (@9)
Incline Seated DB Curls: Stretch pauses/90s rest
22’s x13 (@8)
22’s x11 (@9.5)
***55 mins total
-as an aside: noticing definite hamstrings growth from the SLDLs. Guessing it’s because I haven’t done direct hammy training in over a decade.