That’s was no suicide...

[Wilhelm]

All the places in the world to go on the lam and she chose New Hampshire?

[mbasic]

Hate to joke about it .... But I wonder what kind of accident She is gonna have?

[5hout]

Hate to joke about it .... But I wonder what kind of accident She is gonna have?

I feel like there's a joke about Maxwell and Maxwell's demon and her being in prison, somewhere? Might be stretching, it would be more convenient if her last name was Schrodinger or Heisenberg instead of Maxwell.

[chrisd]

Hate to joke about it .... But I wonder what kind of accident She is gonna have?

I feel like there's a joke about Maxwell and Maxwell's demon and her being in prison, somewhere? Might be stretching, it would be more convenient if her last name was Schrodinger or Heisenberg instead of Maxwell.

Well, she's the daughter of Robert Maxwell (aka the Bouncing Czech) who may or may not have thrown himself off his yacht rather than face the music on a pension fund swindle, so nautical jokes might be in order...

Something something following in father's footsteps or something.

[mbasic]

https://fortune.com/2020/07/20/epstein- ... her-salas/

Hitman kills son of judge overseeing Deutsche Bank-Epstein trial

[DCR]

https://fortune.com/2020/07/20/epstein- ... her-salas/

Hitman kills son of judge overseeing Deutsche Bank-Epstein trial

There's been subsequent reporting that they're reasonably sure it was an attorney who was found dead (suicide) in upstate NY. (Actually, Sullivan County, which is not upstate at all, but folks seem to use that designation with anything north of the Bronx.)

Guy was one of these "men's rights" losers.

[mbasic]

yeah, seems like a 'crazy'.

but why kill the husband and son.

seems like his beef was with the judge.

Fed-Ex uniform? not super elaborate but seems quasi-professional-hit-man-esque

[iamsmu]

but why kill the husband and son.

seems like his beef was with the judge.

Maybe he read Rendezvous in Black and she was responsible for killing someone he loved.

Fed-Ex uniform? not super elaborate but seems quasi-professional-hit-man-esque

Maybe if he had a Fed-Ex truck and not just a uniform, I'd be more impressed.

[mgil]

https://fortune.com/2020/07/20/epstein- ... her-salas/

Hitman kills son of judge overseeing Deutsche Bank-Epstein trial

There's been subsequent reporting that they're reasonably sure it was an attorney who was found dead (“suicide”) in upstate NY. (Actually, Sullivan County, which is not upstate at all, but folks seem to use that designation with anything north of the Bronx.)

Guy was one of these "men's rights" losers.

ftfy

[DCR]

https://fortune.com/2020/07/20/epstein- ... her-salas/

Hitman kills son of judge overseeing Deutsche Bank-Epstein trial

There's been subsequent reporting that they're reasonably sure it was an attorney who was found dead (“suicide”) in upstate NY. (Actually, Sullivan County, which is not upstate at all, but folks seem to use that designation with anything north of the Bronx.)

Guy was one of these "men's rights" losers.

ftfy

I can’t find what you changed and it’s driving me crazy.

ETA: Nevermind, got it.

[ChasingCurls69]

https://fortune.com/2020/07/20/epstein- ... her-salas/

Hitman kills son of judge overseeing Deutsche Bank-Epstein trial

There's been subsequent reporting that they're reasonably sure it was an attorney who was found dead (“suicide”) in upstate NY. (Actually, Sullivan County, which is not upstate at all, but folks seem to use that designation with anything north of the Bronx.)

Guy was one of these "men's rights" losers.

ftfy

I can’t find what you changed and it’s driving me crazy.

ETA: Nevermind, got it.

I didn't get it until I saw this reply

[aurelius]

I'm trying to make sense of the killing of a judge's son. Was that guy just fucking crazy?

[mbasic]

I'm trying to make sense of the killing of a judge's son. Was that guy just fucking crazy?

I think so.
I lost interest, but I think its just some fund or something the Epstein "people" were a part of.
That the judge happened to over see.
...its a pretty loose, non-juicy connection now that I've read a little more.

Kinda wish I didn't even post what I did there now.

Its weird he'd stoop to double (or even triple) murder all of the sudden, and then kill himself.

[rjharris]

I'm trying to make sense of the killing of a judge's son.

Dude was allegedly an MRA and attorney who had lost cases before the judge I think. He wrote a 1700 page screed against her. Not hard to imagine that he went over there to kill her, shot the son, panicked, and left
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/nyre ... salas.html

Was that guy just fucking crazy?

Gonna go with an affirmative on that one.

[aurelius]

Jesus...man. 1700 pages? That is nuts. Because he lost cases in front of her? Like be a better lawyer or take better cases?

I kinda get it. My father is a 'white men are the most discriminated people in the History of this country." actual quote. When asked to explain, there really isn't a lot of substance. My father identifies as a victim. He did everything he could do and life just wasn't fair. Please ignore the multiple felonies he committed, or that his own father wanted him to run his company but my father threw his inheritance away, or that he abandoned his family, or that he is just a miserable POS that makes poor decisions at every opportunity. His latest is he went and saw my 97 yar old grandfather in the hospital and got him to sign a change to his will with my father's wife as a witness (it won't stand up in court). Yeah, he is a bad Lifetime/Oxygen movie villain. A lot of people like my father have grabbed on to this narrative and it really gets them riled up. Because it is not their fault they suck. It is everyone else's. Especially the women folks, blacks, and leftists!

Oh, my father has a kill list. A list of people that he have wronged him. If he ever decides it is time to go, he will try to kill them. He talks about this at family gatherings.

[hector]

He talks about this at family gatherings.

Your Thanksgivings must be awesome and a little scary.

[mbasic]

I kinda get it. My father is a 'white men are the most discriminated people in the History of this country." actual quote. When asked to explain, there really isn't a lot of substance. My father identifies as a victim. He did everything he could do and life just wasn't fair. Please ignore the multiple felonies he committed, or that his own father wanted him to run his company but my father threw his inheritance away, or that he abandoned his family, or that he is just a miserable POS that makes poor decisions at every opportunity. His latest is he went and saw my 97 yar old grandfather in the hospital and got him to sign a change to his will with my father's wife as a witness (it won't stand up in court). Yeah, he is a bad Lifetime/Oxygen movie villain. A lot of people like my father have grabbed on to this narrative and it really gets them riled up. Because it is not their fault they suck. It is everyone else's. Especially the women folks, blacks, and leftists!

Oh, my father has a kill list. A list of people that he have wronged him. If he ever decides it is time to go, he will try to kill them. He talks about this at family gatherings.

I think you just moved into first place over SSD for having the craziest parents.

[aurelius]

Your Thanksgivings must be awesome and a little scary.

I think you just moved into first place over SSD for having the craziest parents.

I had the good fortune of having a wonderful mother that kicked his sorry ass to the curb when I was young. He has thankfully just been this crazy character that I saw a few times a year since elementary school. The rest of my father's side of the family only tolerates him out of respect for my grandfather. None of us fault my grandfather for loving and wanting to think the best of his son. Even though when I was in high school my grandfather told me not to believe a thing my father says and not to trust him. When my grandfather dies, I know many members of the family will completely cut ties.

[mbasic]

It just keeps happening....

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mode ... -rcna16945

[DoctorWho]

It just keeps happening....

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mode ... -rcna16945

What's the best source of info for Epstein/Maxwell info? It's not so much the coincidences of the suicide, but the Lex Wexner (sp?) backstory and Epstein's wealth, the NY mansion having recording equipment (heard it on the internet!), etc.