Culican wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:52 am
I know some people who get severe anxiety when traveling on the freeway; the cars go too fast. I suppose the ADOT should consider lowering the speed limit to 25mph as a reasonable accommodation.
Actually in addition to 25mph, if you mandated helmets in cars, AND made left hand turns illegal (all 3 things) you’d save 40k traffic deaths a year.
Is this reasonable? Nope? Can’t remember where I read this. Mike Rowe for some reason pops into my head
Culican wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:52 am
I know some people who get severe anxiety when traveling on the freeway; the cars go too fast. I suppose the ADOT should consider lowering the speed limit to 25mph as a reasonable accommodation.
Actually in addition to 25mph, if you mandated helmets in cars, AND made left hand turns illegal (all 3 things) you’d save 40k traffic deaths a year.
Is this reasonable? Nope? Can’t remember where I read this. Mike Rowe for some reason pops into my head
Lol @ falling upwards. Maybe we accidentally controlled covid by failing to control covid.
Oldandfat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:24 pm
Actually in addition to 25mph, if you mandated helmets in cars, AND made left hand turns illegal (all 3 things) you’d save 40k traffic deaths a year.
I bet that doesn't take into account the deaths all the extra right turns would cause.
Lol @ falling upwards. Maybe we accidentally controlled covid by failing to control covid.
Oldandfat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:24 pm
Actually in addition to 25mph, if you mandated helmets in cars, AND made left hand turns illegal (all 3 things) you’d save 40k traffic deaths a year.
I bet that doesn't take into account the deaths all the extra right turns would cause.
What the hell is ba.1, ba1.1, and ba.2? Omicron? Or different?
Lol @ falling upwards. Maybe we accidentally controlled covid by failing to control covid.
Oldandfat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:24 pm
Actually in addition to 25mph, if you mandated helmets in cars, AND made left hand turns illegal (all 3 things) you’d save 40k traffic deaths a year.
I bet that doesn't take into account the deaths all the extra right turns would cause.
What the hell is ba.1, ba1.1, and ba.2? Omicron? Or different?
Right hand turns are safer but I,get it.
Yeah they are all Omicron. This ba.2 one seems to be even more transmissible or regardless is taking over the other Omicron for some reason.
Oldandfat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:24 pm
Actually in addition to 25mph, if you mandated helmets in cars, AND made left hand turns illegal (all 3 things) you’d save 40k traffic deaths a year.
Is this reasonable? Nope? Can’t remember where I read this. Mike Rowe for some reason pops into my head
25 years ago, in a traffic engineering class, the professor claimed that removing left turns would save lives and increase overall traffic efficiency.
Cinic wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:49 pm25 years ago, in a traffic engineering class, the professor claimed that removing left turns would save lives and increase overall traffic efficiency.
He's not wrong...UPS removed all 'unnecessary' left turns from their routes. I believe other carriers have too.
asdf wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 11:31 amProbably for speed as much as safety. Right turn on red = less time waiting for a light to change.
Safety and efficiency.
A study on crash factors in intersection-related accidents from the US National Highway Traffic Safety Association shows that turning left is one of the leading “critical pre-crash events” (an event that made a collision inevitable), occurring in 22.2 percent of crashes, as opposed to 1.2 percent for right turns. About 61 percent of crashes that occur while turning or crossing an intersection involve left turns, as opposed to just 3.1 percent involving right turns.
UPS started to eliminate them in the 1970's. Saves them $300 to $400 million annually in gas.
Eliminating left turns would improve the overall safety and efficiency. Of course we are discussing sufficiently urbanized and congested areas where this would have the most impact. Maybe when we all have self-driving cars this will become a reality. But getting human beings to turn right when they want to go left without a barrier preventing them from making the movement is not gonna work. There are a lot of things we could do to improve vehicular transportation if we removed the greatest source of error.
*I'm not advocating for the elimination of left hand turns at uncontrolled intersections.
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I am always amazed at the number of people trying to turn left across a busy street when leaving a parking lot when they could take another exit from the lot on a street perpendicular to the busy street and just make two right turns. The right turns would be much safer and usually much quicker.
that the risk of erectile dysfunction increased by 20% after a bout with COVID-19. Other investigators have reported substantially higher increases in that risk.
Culican wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:43 pm
I am always amazed at the number of people trying to turn left across a busy street when leaving a parking lot when they could take another exit from the lot on a street perpendicular to the busy street and just make two right turns. The right turns would be much safer and usually much quicker.
Do you mean three right turns? 4 counting the one out of the parking lot? If you can do it in two right turns I want to know how
Culican wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 6:43 pm
I am always amazed at the number of people trying to turn left across a busy street when leaving a parking lot when they could take another exit from the lot on a street perpendicular to the busy street and just make two right turns. The right turns would be much safer and usually much quicker.
Do you mean three right turns? 4 counting the one out of the parking lot? If you can do it in two right turns I want to know how
So that's why I always end up going the wrong way and getting lost. Well, it made sense when I typed it.
that the risk of erectile dysfunction increased by 20% after a bout with COVID-19. Other investigators have reported substantially higher increases in that risk.
COVID is the worst!
Branding problem.
If they had figured this out early on and instead called it "Boner Killer Disease" you would have seen all men vaccinated on day 1.