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Re: 2022 Conditioning Party!!!!

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Post by JohnHelton » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:26 am

@Hardartery Nuckols agrees with you. Concurrent training doesn't make you weaker. And if you need it for your sport then you should do it. It is more a matter of recovery resource allocation. If you are recovering fine, then you are good to go.

https://sbspod.com/episodes/energy-comp ... ts?t=32m0s

https://www.strongerbyscience.com/qa/tr ... and_Cardio

Personally, I just follow the steps guidelines at this point. I ran marathons, etc. like an idiot for over a decade. I'm done with all that. Lift, walk, and watch my fatness level. But I'm just a powerlifter. It doesn't get me too winded.

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Post by alek » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:32 am

Allentown wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:48 am
We are not actually strength athletes, though? I guess a few of us are.
Stop bursting my bubble, would ya?
I don't think there is anything special about running besides being a pretty fundamental human movement pattern, and something like an air bike is almost certainly better from a risk-reward ratio, and 10K steps is probably better from a health-promoting standpoint, but I need to chase my kid down a hill on his bike, so...
We could always have more kids; that'll keep us busy enough, don't you think?

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Post by alek » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:34 am

Hardartery wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:07 am ...

I sincerely doubt it had any serious effect on fibre conversion at all. my opinion changed, based on experience, that a minimum of cardio fitness is super beneficial for strength and probably has other health benefits that are difficult to document over the short term. Just being lean isn't the same as being in a healthy place cardio-vascularly, for performance as well as health.
That said, running marathons is probably a bad idea if hypertrophy or strength are your goals, but honestly they are probably a bad idea in general and an example of taking something too far and going from a positive activity to a negative one. Extremes are usually unhealthy in some way.
Pretty much yeah to all of this.

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Post by Tommy1507 » Sun May 01, 2022 9:26 am

Been doing conditioning since 6 weeks.
Just 3 days of LISS on the stationary bike on my non lifting days. > 85 rpm, heart rate at 60-75% ( i aim for 125-130) for 30-40 minutes. Have also begun to sprinkle in some sprints with a heart rate up to 140/145. It's harder than i would have expected it. But i feel good about it and i think it does not affect my recovery at all. It would be nice if it would lower my blood pressure. But i have also read that maybe a higher frequency would be even more better for treating high bp, because the acute impact lasts only 24 hours or so.

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Post by asdf » Sun May 01, 2022 10:05 am

augeleven wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:07 am Leg Blasters are now my Friday lower main movement
Mini leg blasters were my wife's primary lower-body movement while letting her hip flexor settle down. Over a couple of months, she worked up to 10 rounds on the 1:30, multiple times per week. She's now back to running, squatting, deadlifting, etc., but still does the leg blasters once a week.

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Post by heidikay » Mon May 02, 2022 3:39 pm

Saw this thread and decided to try leg blasters. Did 5 rounds with 30 seconds rest between. One of the most horrible things I've ever done.

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Post by augeleven » Mon May 02, 2022 4:46 pm

heidikay wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:39 pm Saw this thread and decided to try leg blasters. Did 5 rounds with 30 seconds rest between. One of the most horrible things I've ever done.
Beastly. Did you do the 10/5 mini blasters or the full 20/10 rep ones? Either way it’s pretty impressive on 30 seconds rest.

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Post by alek » Mon May 02, 2022 7:23 pm

augeleven wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 4:46 pm
heidikay wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:39 pm Saw this thread and decided to try leg blasters. Did 5 rounds with 30 seconds rest between. One of the most horrible things I've ever done.
Beastly. Did you do the 10/5 mini blasters or the full 20/10 rep ones? Either way it’s pretty impressive on 30 seconds rest.
I just did two rounds of mini blasters with a minute rest in between. You people are crazy.

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Post by asdf » Mon May 02, 2022 7:54 pm

5 rounds of full leg blasters with 30 seconds rest...

that's where the original six-week Military Athlete "Afghanistan Pre-Deployment Training Program" ends.

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Post by augeleven » Tue May 03, 2022 5:16 am

I’m doing 4-5 sets of micro blasters (8/4 reps) with 2 minutes rest. Lungs are fine (duh, long rests…), but if you look at jump lunge depth from first set to last, it’s funny.
I’m doing these before my main bench and I had a bit of trouble with leg drive. The quad pump is sick.

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Post by heidikay » Tue May 03, 2022 1:20 pm

@augeleven I did the full master blasters and it was a pain like nothing I've experienced before.
@asdf I have been doing metcons pretty regularly over the past year, so I think they prepared me a bit. Still, I could barely walk when I went for my regular walk today.

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Post by DCR » Tue May 03, 2022 1:30 pm

I had to google leg blasters and, assuming I’m looking at the right thing… y’all can keep it. :lol:

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Post by JohnHelton » Tue May 03, 2022 1:34 pm

I almost threw up just watching a video of people doing leg blasters.

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Post by broseph » Tue May 03, 2022 2:09 pm

I’m changing gears and starting Memorial Day Murph training. I’m sick of the assault bike anyway.

After a few running sessions, I’m reminded of the fact that I can run super slow (10:00+ mile) for a long(ish) time, but I have a lot of trouble going any faster, even for short distances.

Anyone else murphin’ this year?

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Post by augeleven » Tue May 03, 2022 3:34 pm

broseph wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:09 pm Anyone else murphin’ this year?
I used to be a Murph- doer like you, but then I took a tendinitis to the elbow.

I’m slowly testing the waters with pull-ups. If the elbow seems like it can handle it, I might do it. I wanted to actually train it up this year, especially since I think I was about 30 pounds lighter than the last time I did it.

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Post by broseph » Tue May 03, 2022 3:44 pm

augeleven wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:34 pm
broseph wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:09 pm Anyone else murphin’ this year?
I used to be a Murph- doer like you, but then I took a tendinitis to the elbow.

I’m slowly testing the waters with pull-ups. If the elbow seems like it can handle it, I might do it. I wanted to actually train it up this year, especially since I think I was about 30 pounds lighter than the last time I did it.
I saw that in your log. I’d like to do it weighted this year, but my knees are JUST now feeling better after months of not feeling good.

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Post by Allentown » Wed May 04, 2022 6:23 am

First time using the Echo. Just 5min of easy pedaling, but God damn this is a whole different thing than the Airdyne. Harder to just do a lazy relaxed pedal. 1/10 the noise. Absolutely no residual power from a big push left after, you can't get a really hard crank and let it ride for a cycle or two.

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Post by broseph » Wed May 04, 2022 11:55 am

Allentown wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 6:23 am First time using the Echo. Just 5min of easy pedaling, but God damn this is a whole different thing than the Airdyne. Harder to just do a lazy relaxed pedal. 1/10 the noise. Absolutely no residual power from a big push left after, you can't get a really hard crank and let it ride for a cycle or two.
That’s exactly what I’ve heard about that thing. Even the Assault Bike has some amount coasting. Echo sounds like torture.

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Post by asdf » Wed May 04, 2022 11:57 am

heidikay wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 1:20 pm I did the full master blasters and it was a pain like nothing I've experienced before.
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I have been doing metcons pretty regularly over the past year, so I think they prepared me a bit. Still, I could barely walk when I went for my regular walk today.
Totally impressive. As are the 25 rounds of Cindy, 5x10 L-sit chin-ups, etc. that I see on the last page of your training log.

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Post by asdf » Wed May 04, 2022 12:01 pm

augeleven wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:34 pm I’m slowly testing the waters with pull-ups. If the elbow seems like it can handle it, I might do it. I wanted to actually train it up this year, especially since I think I was about 30 pounds lighter than the last time I did it.
Maybe you could sub a different movement? Chin-ups instead of pull-ups... or dumbbell rows?

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