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Re: Fifty 420

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Post by JonA » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:35 pm

EricK wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:34 pm
hector wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:14 pm If journalists are unhappy with whatever new form Twitter takes, how hard would it be to just start a new platform? I wouldn't be surprised if someone was prepping or repurposing a new product for exactly this circumstance.
Look at truth social; it's a ghost town even though the founder was/is a very popular personality.
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Post by hector » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:41 pm

EricK wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:34 pm
hector wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:14 pm If journalists are unhappy with whatever new form Twitter takes, how hard would it be to just start a new platform? I wouldn't be surprised if someone was prepping or repurposing a new product for exactly this circumstance.
Look at truth social; it's a ghost town even though the founder was/is a very popular personality.
Good point.

I would counter (with admittedly little social media expertise) that Truth is going after MAGA country. Those guys already have Gab and Parlor.

Is there a Twitter equivalent for the Left? (Thats not rhetorical. Maybe there is and I don't know about it.)

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Post by mikeylikey » Mon May 02, 2022 12:00 pm

hector wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:41 pm
I would counter (with admittedly little social media expertise) that Truth is going after MAGA country. Those guys already have Gab and Parlor.

Is there a Twitter equivalent for the Left? (Thats not rhetorical. Maybe there is and I don't know about it.)
Depending on who you ask, Twitter.

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Post by hector » Mon May 02, 2022 12:37 pm

mikeylikey wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:00 pm
hector wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:41 pm
I would counter (with admittedly little social media expertise) that Truth is going after MAGA country. Those guys already have Gab and Parlor.

Is there a Twitter equivalent for the Left? (Thats not rhetorical. Maybe there is and I don't know about it.)
Depending on who you ask, Twitter.
I meant, on the left, is there a substitute for Twitter?
(Unless I'm misunderstanding your post.)

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Post by JonA » Mon May 02, 2022 12:51 pm

mikeylikey wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:00 pm
hector wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:41 pm Is there a Twitter equivalent for the Left? (Thats not rhetorical. Maybe there is and I don't know about it.)
Depending on who you ask, Twitter.
There was an internal research study at Twitter last year that showed that Twitter "amplified" conservative tweets more than progressive tweets. I thought that was a curious word choice, but it makes sense in clickbait terms. Just like Fox News amplifies Antifa for clickbait. That doesn't make Fox News a liberal bastion for giving Antifa more exposure or Twitter more conservative for promoting Trump's tweets or whatever. It just makes them an expert a getting their respective communities (which do skew politically) riled up enough to click articles and view advertising.

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Post by mikeylikey » Wed May 04, 2022 9:44 am

hector wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:37 pm
I meant, on the left, is there a substitute for Twitter?
(Unless I'm misunderstanding your post.)
Ah, your question is, "is there a comparable social media platform more liberal than twitter / marketed to users for whom twitter isn't liberal enough".

To my knowledge no, nor has there been any notable demand for one. Let that sink in.

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Post by JonA » Tue May 17, 2022 7:02 am

So, what are the odds that this buyout actually takes place? NDAs being violated, price tanking, bot sampling, oh my.

I've been finding the "discussion" about how Twitter identifies bots to be pretty...I don't know...ironic? The Twitter CEO tried to make it sound like identification of bots was a rigorous process, but he started out the description with "Our estimate is based on multiple human reviews (in replicate) of thousands of accounts". It all sounds very Turing Test-like.




Atleast the CEO took the time to try to describe the process in detail. Elon responded with a :poop emoji. (I'm not saying Elon is wrong, it's just a little juvenile. And also we need a poop emoji for here)


ETA: Part of me wonders if this is a trigger that will bring down the whole ponzi scheme/house of cards that is social media advertising.

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Post by aurelius » Tue May 17, 2022 7:40 am

JonA wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 7:02 am So, what are the odds that this buyout actually takes place? NDAs being violated, price tanking, bot sampling, oh my.
Zero. Musk only could get financing by giving up a A LOT of Tesla stock. Which Tesla is down 20% since this announcement. Also, the realities of Musk running Twitter I think were setting in.

-Musk enjoys his celebrity status. Buying Twitter was a 'cool' kid move. Running Twitter would not be. Musk would be hated by a significant sized group no matter what he does. He would be viewed as a white power extremist or liberal socialist. Either of which would hurt his other business interests. Think of it this way: Tesla and Space X competes for government contracts. If Musk becomes political via Twitter, he will face negative consequences to his businesses as a result.
-I don't think he can monetize Twitter without making it significantly worse (thus losing users). Financial backers don't care if Musk's plan is terrible because they will receive 3 to 4 fold in Tesla stock what they would lose in capital.

Manic Musk is giving way to rationale Musk as the realities of buying Twitter become apparent. Musk will find a way to tank the deal.

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Post by mbasic » Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:30 pm

mikeylikey wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:58 am
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Post by aurelius » Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:14 pm

Twitter is trying to force the sale. "We are confident we will prevail in the Delaware Court of Chancery."

What? That is some Harry Potter shit.

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Post by Hardartery » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:44 am

aurelius wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:14 pm Twitter is trying to force the sale. "We are confident we will prevail in the Delaware Court of Chancery."

What? That is some Harry Potter shit.
I think it'll go. Maybe they negotiate the price down a little or something, but I think that this is all just tactics. Actual tactics, not Trump playing "4 D chess" nonsense.

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Post by hector » Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:59 am

Hardartery wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:44 am
aurelius wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:14 pm Twitter is trying to force the sale. "We are confident we will prevail in the Delaware Court of Chancery."

What? That is some Harry Potter shit.
I think it'll go. Maybe they negotiate the price down a little or something, but I think that this is all just tactics. Actual tactics, not Trump playing "4 D chess" nonsense.
Maybe a certain loss with a guaranteed ceiling of 1 billion dollars is a better deal than buying twitter right now at 44 billion? (Or whatever the price is.)

Maybe that walkway fee of a billion gets negotiated to something smaller in court, so it will only cost a fraction of that to walk away.

Or maybe the sale will go through at an adjusted price.

Still amazing to me that anyone gives any Fs that one tech billionaire is buying a tech company from other tech billionaires.

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Post by Hardartery » Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:27 pm

hector wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:59 am
Hardartery wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:44 am
aurelius wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:14 pm Twitter is trying to force the sale. "We are confident we will prevail in the Delaware Court of Chancery."

What? That is some Harry Potter shit.
I think it'll go. Maybe they negotiate the price down a little or something, but I think that this is all just tactics. Actual tactics, not Trump playing "4 D chess" nonsense.
Maybe a certain loss with a guaranteed ceiling of 1 billion dollars is a better deal than buying twitter right now at 44 billion? (Or whatever the price is.)

Maybe that walkway fee of a billion gets negotiated to something smaller in court, so it will only cost a fraction of that to walk away.

Or maybe the sale will go through at an adjusted price.

Still amazing to me that anyone gives any Fs that one tech billionaire is buying a tech company from other tech billionaires.
The only part that is insteresting to me is the chance to make a little free money off of the excitement to fund my continued retirement. Elon is a nutter, the management at Twitter sucks, in the end it tanks from stupidity or Musk makes it exciting enough to stay afloat. Either way, I'm not on that platform and will continue to be not on that platform, but I have enjoyed selling covered calls during the drama.

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Post by hsilman » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:40 pm

mikeylikey wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 9:44 am
hector wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 12:37 pm
I meant, on the left, is there a substitute for Twitter?
(Unless I'm misunderstanding your post.)
Ah, your question is, "is there a comparable social media platform more liberal than twitter / marketed to users for whom twitter isn't liberal enough".

To my knowledge no, nor has there been any notable demand for one. Let that sink in.
To my knowledge, there is no notable demand for a better place to sell child sex slaves than Twitter. Let that sink in.

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Post by Hiphopapotamus » Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:13 pm

mikeylikey wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:31 am Image
Are they finally getting it off Schedule 1? I haven't seen anything today but I know Biden's been pushing for that.

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Post by aurelius » Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:38 am

Let’s run through the 4D chess here:
-enter into legally binding agreement to buy Twitter
-immediately seek to back out
-make statements that damage Twitters value and drive it’s price down
-get sued and realize have to buy Twitter at price stated in legally binding agreement
FUTURE
-Twitter tanks as it will be unable to service Musk’s funding requirements
-Musk loses significant chunk of Tesla stock to Twitter backers

This could end up costing Musk over $100 billion. Jesus.

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Post by JonA » Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:04 am

Is anyone else entertained by watching people pay $8 to get banned by Twitter?

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Post by mgil » Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:31 am

JonA wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:04 am Is anyone else entertained by watching people pay $8 to get banned by Twitter?
It’s a wonderful shitshow.

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