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Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:47 pm
by anelson
unruhschuh wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:24 pm
Hiphopapotamus wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:19 pm
d0uevenlift wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:03 pm
KyleSchuant wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:20 am
Since someone always asks in Rip's Q&A, we may as well ask it here: where do you fit in the cardio?
I won't ask the one about what if you're a vegan.
I like doing LISS twice a week now on my non-lifting days... which is most days these days.
Is this before or after doing NESS protocol?
You can do a superset to save time.
As long as you remember to KISS.
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:21 pm
by Mattjd
There's no way prowler can be thought of as light or medium squat can it?
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:48 pm
by Hanley
Mattjd wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:21 pm
There's no way prowler can be thought of as light or medium squat can it?
And a light, static press as well!
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:26 am
by michael
Hanley wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:48 pm
Mattjd wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:21 pm
There's no way prowler can be thought of as light or medium squat can it?
And a light, static press as well!
Is a static press a strict press, or isometric pressing against pins?
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:35 pm
by damufunman
michael wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:26 am
Hanley wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:48 pm
Mattjd wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:21 pm
There's no way prowler can be thought of as light or medium squat can it?
And a light, static press as well!
Is a static press a strict press, or isometric pressing against pins?
Triple layback press. Except forward. Against moving pins.
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:58 pm
by Hanley
damufunman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:35 pm
michael wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:26 am
Hanley wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:48 pm
Mattjd wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:21 pm
There's no way prowler can be thought of as light or medium squat can it?
And a light, static press as well!
Is a static press a strict press, or isometric pressing against pins?
Triple layback press. Except forward. Against moving pins.
To practice getting into and maintaining the position of massive lumbar hyperextension required of 3.0, I have clients lean waaaaay fucking backward and push the prowler that way. It looks sorta like the stair-scene from The Exorcist.
Guaranteed facet-joint arthritis, but we're Alpha.
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:29 pm
by anelson
Hanley wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:58 pm
Guaranteed facet-joint arthritis, but we're Alpha.
Intentional hardship.
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:30 pm
by Hanley
anelson wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:29 pm
Hanley wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:58 pm
Guaranteed facet-joint arthritis, but we're Alpha.
Intentional hardship.
Because Jesus suffered for us.
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:33 am
by cole
good write up @unruhschuh
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:36 am
by Mattjd
my assburgers are mad that you aren't fully answering me but the non autist part of me is saying that your jokes mean no.
What is it?
Socializing is hard
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:36 am
by Dan
Hey unruh, great post! Thanks for laying that out so well. And you too, Hanley, very insightful.
Somewhat unrelated, but I found out about this place by reading between the lines on the Other forum. I was wondering if it was just me feeling uncomfortable over there. I rarely posted anyway. I still follow Andy and Jordan's presence, but I'm encouraged to see so many consistent quality posters migrated. Interesting times....
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:37 pm
by Wilhelm
Glad you found the place, @DLS
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:13 am
by unruhschuh
DLS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:36 am
Hey unruh, great post! Thanks for laying that out so well. And you too, Hanley, very insightful.
Somewhat unrelated, but I found out about this place by reading between the lines on the Other forum. I was wondering if it was just me feeling uncomfortable over there. I rarely posted anyway. I still follow Andy and Jordan's presence, but I'm encouraged to see so many consistent quality posters migrated. Interesting times....
Welcome aboard! I joined the StartingStrength forum in 2010. In 7 years I only accumulated 179 posts. I've been here for only a few months and am currently at >500. Go figure.
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:51 am
by Hanley
Mattjd wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:36 am
my assburgers are mad that you aren't fully answering me but the non autist part of me is saying that your jokes mean no.
What is it?
Socializing is hard
No. Even the lightest squat variations should contribute to hip and knee extensor hypertrophy or strength (or improve isometric bracing of the trunk).
I’d guess the prowler does none of those things for someone with more than 3-4 months of lifting experience.
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:49 am
by unruhschuh
New video by Andy Baker on HML for reference:
Andy Baker - Heavy-Light-Medium Confusion!
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:25 pm
by michael
Is it possible to make the same load feel Heavy, Light, or Medium by managing fatigue differently?
For example:
Load ~80% 1RM
Sets x Reps
Rest between sets
Heavy
4x6
Five minutes
Light
8x3
Two minutes
Medium
6x4
Three minutes
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:29 pm
by Hanley
michael wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Is it possible to make the same load feel Heavy, Light, or Medium by managing fatigue differently?
Certainly. I don't really like the heavy, light, medium nomenclature. Do those words refer to relative intensity or stress-level?
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:32 pm
by michael
Hanley wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:29 pm
michael wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Is it possible to make the same load feel Heavy, Light, or Medium by managing fatigue differently?
Certainly. I don't really like the heavy, light, medium nomenclature. Do those words refer to relative intensity or stress-level?
Does my example seem workable?
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:45 pm
by Hanley
michael wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:32 pm
Hanley wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:29 pm
michael wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Is it possible to make the same load feel Heavy, Light, or Medium by managing fatigue differently?
Certainly. I don't really like the heavy, light, medium nomenclature. Do those words refer to relative intensity or stress-level?
Does my example seem workable?
Not for me. I'd die. 72 reps at 80% in 96 within 96 hours? [shudder]
Re: One weird trick to set up an HLM scheme THEY don't want you to know
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:50 pm
by michael
Hanley wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:45 pm
michael wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:32 pm
Hanley wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:29 pm
michael wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Is it possible to make the same load feel Heavy, Light, or Medium by managing fatigue differently?
Certainly. I don't really like the heavy, light, medium nomenclature. Do those words refer to relative intensity or stress-level?
Does my example seem workable?
Not for me. I'd die. 72 reps at 80% in 96 within 96 hours? [shudder]
Try being weaker.