LOW TESTOSTERONE???

[ChristineBennett]

Yes, much depends on this hormone, I even heard that it is possible to rise it up with some injections ... But I'm not sure how it will be right, in relation to the body...

[omaniphil]

????

[mbasic]

homer no function beer with out

[mbasic]

[Hardartery]

He is stating a lot of theory as fact. Not really much backing up most of that info at this point, a lot is being extrapolated from studies that don't really say what is being claimed.

[mbasic]

He is stating a lot of theory as fact. Not really much backing up most of that info at this point, a lot is being extrapolated from studies that don't really say what is being claimed.

Funny enough, I got turned on to ASAPScience by Doctor Sully himself .... pfft!

[Hardartery]

He is stating a lot of theory as fact. Not really much backing up most of that info at this point, a lot is being extrapolated from studies that don't really say what is being claimed.

Funny enough, I got turned on to ASAPScience by Doctor Sully himself .... pfft!

I'm not saying that he's necessarily incorrect, just that it's a lot more disputable than presented. I have glass storage containers and no microwave, etc... just in case. I am actually on TRT, none of that stuff made any difference, but I had another glandular issue jacking stuff up. I have lost hundreds of hours reading studies and forums on the subject, and a lot of what's out there is nonsense. The whole anti-plastic thing may or may not turn out to be true, I just like people to use a bit of a disclaimer and not resent things as absolutely proven.

[mbasic]

I agree with the fact that all this is far from proven.

I'd like to see the standard dick and taint-distance measuring proceedures over the decades, and how uniform they were.

If it is real (xeno-chemical-interference-whatever) , its probably more of a problem for kids going thru puberty, and/or before puberty, and/or developing in the womb....

Just throwing it out there....idk if unnecessary Rx'd TRT (a la SS) is going to fix all that if "it" is disturbed if the "baseline" is set at pubertal development....or if you're obese and/or a defacto alcoholic*.

* e.g. every 3rd post on your social media feed has to do with whiskey, gin, etc

[Hardartery]

I agree with the fact that all this is far from proven.

I'd like to see the standard dick and taint-distance measuring proceedures over the decades, and how uniform they were.

If it is real (xeno-chemical-interference-whatever) , its probably more of a problem for kids going thru puberty, and/or before puberty, and/or developing in the womb....

Just throwing it out there....idk if unnecessary Rx'd TRT (a la SS) is going to fix all that if "it" is disturbed if the "baseline" is set at pubertal development....or if you're obese and/or a defacto alcoholic*.

* e.g. every 3rd post on your social media feed has to do with whiskey, gin, etc

I think the porn is doing more damage than all of the other stuff, honestly. These kids in their 20's have issues no one had when I was that age. I think a lot of stuff combines to cause the issues. My system seems to be generally showing signs of post surgery recovery (3+ years since surgery), so I'm hoping that in the near future I can try a restart on my system and be off of TRT. I needed it, like any other treatment when you have a condition, but I don't understand the hurry people seem to be in to commit to a hormone treatment - especially one that is likely permanent. Honestly, what science knows about it all seems to me to be about 1% of what they think they know and less than that amount of what there is to be known. People are really jacked up in a lot of ways we haven't even identified. And that's saying a lot given that there apparently people going around measuring the length of men's taints. Did this happen to me at some point and I missed it? Who is doing that measurement?

[mgil]

Testosterone time series data is damn near non-existent.

Measuring dicks is shit science and combining that with an increase of adipose tissue diminishing length and I have little confidence in this metric. Michelangelo's David is an example from the past that some dicks were small then too.

Arguing people should clean up their diets and be healthier can be done without baseless rhetoric.

[Hardartery]

Testosterone time series data is damn near non-existent.

Measuring dicks is shit science and combining that with an increase of adipose tissue diminishing length and I have little confidence in this metric. Michelangelo's David is an example from the past that some dicks were small then too.

Arguing people should clean up their diets and be healthier can be done without baseless rhetoric.

It's not like there's a shortage of legit reasons to do those things.

[mgil]

Exactly.

[mbasic]

Michelangelo's David is an example from the past that some dicks were small then too.

Ooh ooh ooh...I know this one

Back then you didn't want to be depicted with a big schlong because that made you seem more animalistic and therefore subhuman something-something.

Back then, they probably didnt ask women for their input too much on these issues either....

Small peepee = higher plane in the natural world.

/shitpostbuttrue

[KyleSchuant]

"It was cold!"

[5hout]

I needed it, like any other treatment when you have a condition, but I don't understand the hurry people seem to be in to commit to a hormone treatment - especially one that is likely permanent.

TRT is the new "red convertible" mid-life crisis buy. It's 35-55 year old guys realizing they are n years old and haven't aged into being Jocko/Joe Rogen/Pre-Chair-Speech Clint Eastwood and deciding the way to recapture their virility is anabolic androgenic steroids. But, since you can't tell your wife/friends "I'm going to go on steroids to look like a slightly better in shape version of myself and feel great" you say "Ohh, yeah I had lowT and now I feel great". Don't lose weigh, cut out excess drinking, actually get something approaching a regular/sane sleep cycle. Just chemically reset your body to 25, forever.

The number of dad-friends I know that are doing the wink-wink-nudge-nudge when these commercials come on is startling high. It's basically being at a middle school sleepover again and everyone is waiting for someone else to suggest cracking open the host-parent's liquor cabinet after they go to bed.

[mgil]

It’s what happens when people that were used to instant gratification in their childhood grow up and have excess income.

The TRT crowd is often the same crowd that hires out almost every aspect of labor done at their house and considers driving a powerboat around on a lake getting in touch with nature.

[Culican]

And that's saying a lot given that there apparently people going around measuring the length of men's taints. Did this happen to me at some point and I missed it? Who is doing that measurement?

Anthony Fauci?

"...and I went into the bathhouses to essentially see what was going on."

Dr. Fauci On Vaccinations And Biden's 'Refreshing' Approach To COVID-19
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... o-covid-19

[Hardartery]

I needed it, like any other treatment when you have a condition, but I don't understand the hurry people seem to be in to commit to a hormone treatment - especially one that is likely permanent.

TRT is the new "red convertible" mid-life crisis buy. It's 35-55 year old guys realizing they are n years old and haven't aged into being Jocko/Joe Rogen/Pre-Chair-Speech Clint Eastwood and deciding the way to recapture their virility is anabolic androgenic steroids. But, since you can't tell your wife/friends "I'm going to go on steroids to look like a slightly better in shape version of myself and feel great" you say "Ohh, yeah I had lowT and now I feel great". Don't lose weigh, cut out excess drinking, actually get something approaching a regular/sane sleep cycle. Just chemically reset your body to 25, forever.

The number of dad-friends I know that are doing the wink-wink-nudge-nudge when these commercials come on is startling high. It's basically being at a middle school sleepover again and everyone is waiting for someone else to suggest cracking open the host-parent's liquor cabinet after they go to bed.

I can say from experience that it doesn't really work like that. Most of the men going on it also, honestly, do not need it at all. Guys with 600 test on a 300-1000 range don't need it, they are just whiny and delusional. That's just slightly lower than where mine is with TRT, and I would never have considered it with that level naturally. There's so much BS out there, and outright misinformation, it's incredible.

[psmith]

"I'm going to go on steroids to look like a slightly better in shape version of myself and feel great"

NTTAWWT, though I agree it's not the sort of thing you can generally be honest about

[KyleSchuant]

TRT is the new "red convertible" mid-life crisis buy. It's 35-55 year old guys realizing they are n years old and haven't aged into being Jocko/Joe Rogen/Pre-Chair-Speech Clint Eastwood and deciding the way to recapture their virility is anabolic androgenic steroids.

I looked into it. I've never been against PEDs as such, so long as the person had medical supervision from someone whose primary concern was their health - not their performance or looks.

I quickly realised that whatever my blood test results, whatever I said in the consult, they were going to prescribe me drugs. Which meant their primary concern wasn't my health, it was money. Saying everyone should get X mg of T a week no matter what makes as much sense as saying everyone should add 2.5kg to the bar every week. That seemed dangerous to me, so I declined.